9/11

[Jennings]

Golanv, you will appreciate that my interest in American politics per se is marginal and that you omitted to say when the dream took place but, having said this, what your dream seems to relate is that GB is epitomized as being the Head Of The Federation with all this position's finery and trappings but, that he lacks actual influence. As his power begins to wane his influence collaspes due to some family 'skeleton' being publicly resurrected. It will be interesting to note if this comes to pass. Interestingly, one half of it has transpired but did the dream occur prior to the last Federal elections or afterwards?

MAP, your dream seems self-explanatory. It indicates that you might have known someone who may hold some position of status and while he is ready to duly acknowledge you, he is not prepared to discuss his assciation with you and the best method of hiding this is by both denial and accusation. He is running scared and obviously believes others will accept his word before they accept yours. You recognise this feature so you withdraw possibly from his company or his influence. Can you recognise something like this?

[Golanv]

Hi PC, I would say that you if you aren't getting enough sleep to dream you must sleep more. That was a problem I had and it almost drove me nuts. Sleep deprivation. I am finally sleeping again after quite a while of waking up during the night. Finally having dreams again. Also, I ask for them before I sleep when I get the best dreams. You seem to be as prolific at dreaming as you are at painting. That rocks. ~ Golanv

[Golanv]

Originally Posted by Jennings

Golanv, you will appreciate that my interest in American politics per se is marginal and that you omitted to say when the dream took place but, having said this, what your dream seems to relate is that GB is epitomized as being the Head Of The Federation with all this position's finery and trappings but, that he lacks actual influence. As his power begins to wane his influence collaspes due to some family 'skeleton' being publicly resurrected. It will be interesting to note if this comes to pass. Interestingly, one half of it has transpired but did the dream occur prior to the last Federal elections or afterwards?

Thank you, Jennings ~ You put it much better than I could but that was essentially what I got from the dream; that he would lose power in some way. I dreamed this about a month before the 2006 election. I told several friends I thought the Republicans would lose both majorities in the election because of it. They thought I was nuts but were hopeful, then ecstatic as the returns came in. I hope dropping of the sword hilt means our children will know a world with Peace.

[Jennings]

Regretfully, Golanv, between George Bush and his Apostle Tony Blair (UK) they have succeeded between them to set Islam against the West. Future leaders will have a difficult 'brush and shovel' job clearing away the mess of their legacy.

[Golanv]

Originally Posted by Jennings

Regretfully, Golanv, between George Bush and his Apostle Tony Blair (UK) they have succeeded between them to set Islam against the West. Future leaders will have a difficult 'brush and shovel' job clearing away the mess of their legacy.

I agree with you wholeheartedly, Jennings, but I have faith that we can fix it. I have seen it in a dream that featured George Burns and John Denver. I must get ready to go to Dr. soon so I won't go into the full dream now. But I do believe it. We will have Peace. ~ Golanv

[Salman]

Originally Posted by MAPreCogDreamer

Do any of you have any method of bringing these dreams out? Any form of medetation before bed or anything like that?
I have had several night mares the past couple nights but they have all been normal and not seem to be related to the feeling of dread.



as far as telling someone and preventing anything, unfortunatly not many people believe anyone who says they dreamed something, maybe if someone collected the descriptions of dreams of thousands of people around the world it could be submitted as a study but as a rule they don't tend to believe anyone until after the event has happened and we are left feeling frustrated because we knew all allong.

To answer your first question, this may seem ridiculas compared to the intensity of the situation, however, i tried one very simple thing, just before going to sleep, i will close my eye's even if feeling uncomfortable going to sleep, i will say silently, "dream good dreams" about 3 times, and or "god please give me good dreams, no scary dreams" it has surprisingly worked for the last three days straight. Try it, it just may work for you, i tried it from someone who mentioned it in one of the disscussin on this site.

Secondly, you are right, as most of us have akcnowledge before that no matter what our perceptions, dreams or such are related to an event, no one seems or will belive us, not to say someone won't, therefore it is impairative not to give up, because we have to realise its human nature to be ignorant no matter who you are, due to our limited thinking and brain efficency we tend to only live in the present, i.e we only belive what we see literally and or when it happens in front of us. Forget someone else telling you even if it really happened, this then becomes "conspiracies" or "theories" that even if the event happened on a wide scale people are still unwilling to belive it happened.

This is also true when you look at the world religions, namely the Bible and the Quran, though all the predictions were written thousands of years ago, and according to the holy books each one comming true over time, most people do not recognize it still, because no one can imagine the possibility of something different happening outside their box, i.e belief, this also shows that we seem to not belive in the past or the future, only the present. But just like the prophacies of the religions "it will be too late to belive when we see the end with our own eyes".

Not to scare anyone or judge, i just though it would be creative to reconize our biggest flaws as a humanity.

[TexasDreamer]

Two weeks before 9/11, I had a repeating dream. When I woke up it was like it had already happened and I searched the news thinking I had fallen asleep while watching tv. But no such thing had happened. I called a friend in Chicago and told my repeating dream to since he believes that I have a gift of foresight. Here was the exact dream.
I dreamed that I was on a bicycle in this huge city with lots of skyscrappers around. I knew it wasn't in Dallas or Houston here in Texas but coudn't figure out which large city I was in. I heard this huge roar and looked up to see this plane flying over. It was an American Airlines plane with the number 11 near the front of the plane and the Big red and blue AA on the tail. I could see people in the little windows and they were all screaming with panic looks on their faces. I thought in my dream wow that plane is flying too low in such a big city it is going to hit a building. As it flew over my head I heard a loud explosion and heard glass breaking and hitting the ground. I turned around to see this building fall to the ground in a cloud of smoke and dust. I was trying to peddle my bike as fast as I could to out run it. That is when I woke up. I had the same exact dream the next night again it was if I had seen it on tv.
On the 0/11 I was teaching a class of 5th graders art. A teacher called me out of my room and told me about us being attacked but didn't have much information. When I got to the teachers workroom I was watching as the second plane hit the other tower. I said "Oh please don't tell me it was flight 11 American Airlines. It was and when I got home my friend from Chicago had left many messages. I almost phoned the FFA after the second dream, and always felt guilty of not telling anyone about it. They probably would have thought me a crazy and then if I had I am sure that the FBI would have called me in for questioning that next day. This isn't the first nor the last prophetic dream I have had....Dallas State Fair in 86 gondala fell and killed people, Oklahoma Fed Building bombing, I-35 bridge collapse in Minn., Virginia Tech shooting, several earthquakes, just to name some dreams, visions I have had in my life time.

[IrisRavenstar]

IrisRavenstar's Pre-9/11 Dreams & Visions

I've gathered together the ones I've identified as being related to 9/11 in my journal,
which I started on Jan. 31, 2001, and which, synchronistically, has an old photo
of the Eiffel (I Fell?) Tower on the cover with twin golden yellow tulips, which make
me think of the twin towers being related to finances/gold. I don't think my
use of that particular journal at that particular time was accidental,
but rather the true meaningful coincidence of synchronicity.

Also, all during this time period, I was having waking visions of gravestones
with either "IX" or "XI" printed on them. It never occurred to me to consider
that was giving me a date! But it's obvious in hindsight that it was. I just
kept thinking that either I or someone I know was crossing over, dying,
and got scared about that.

February 16: Dream: A man came up to me, my guide I think, and told me to
look toward some city buildings. There were a bunch of helicopters, military
type, and they started to shoot rockets at the buildings and blew a couple of
them up completely. One building looked like the Leaning Tower of Pisa. I
was frightened they would start shooting where we were.

(Notes: I woke up,
and later turned on the news, and found the U.S. was bombing Iraq that day,
though that tower also makes me think this one is related to 9/11 events
as well.)

May 6: Vision: Coming towards me were at least three emergency vehicles side
by side, lights flashing, probably ambulances as I think they were all
white... it was as if every lane was filled with ambulances.

June 7: Dream: Very long and I forgot some. I had lots and lots of money,
and some man was trying to steal it from me. He came along in a donkey cart
and carried a bunch of it away and down a long hallway, where the donkey
started breaking down some walls, demolishing them, making huge holes in
them. The cart was stuffed full of my money. I also had a big satchel or
duffel bag full that I was holding very close as I went into a shop full of
strangers where I felt very protective of it and scared.

(Notes: On Sept.
23, 60 Minutes aired a piece on terrorists, and there was a scene of one of
the terrorists in a donkey cart that was just what I had seen in my dream. I
thought then that the money is the country's money, and what it's costing us
in the wake of these incidents, and also had seen a piece on CNN where the
terrorists may have profited on the stock market by their foreknowledge of
the events.)

July 13: Dream: I was working in a mental hospital, and it was all sort of
jumbled and confusing. My ex-husband was in the dream throughout, and in
fact, it seemed to take place in his house, and his wife actually does work
as a mental health worker, but is currently out of work due to a clinical
depression. I seemed to sometimes be inside "me" and sometimes outside
watching, and I didn't look like me... it could have been his current wife.
I wasn't sure. Anyway, there was a scene with "me" throwing things into
suitcases, but don't remember much about that. Then my ex was driving a
truck around crazy, out of control. He almost ran me down, and drove into
his garage way too fast. Someone else (not sure who) ran ahead of him and
opened another door at the other end of the garage, so that he passed through
into the back yard, where he was still driving all crazy and erratic all over
the yard for a long time. I saw that from an aerial view perspective. Then
he drove back into the garage, and I expected him to come back out my side,
but he didn't. He came to a "dead stop" (and that was the phrase I used in
the dream itself), and the garage dropped down into the earth and out of
sight, with him still inside. It was totally underground.

(Notes: I found
out on August 30 that my ex and his wife were planning to fly to California
from Connecticut for two weeks on Sept.12! So they really were packing the
day of the WTC incident. In real life, there is no rear exit from his
garage, but a large hot tub on an enclosed deck. At the time of the dream, I
thought it was about his health, which it still may also be. He's had heart
disease, diabetes, and strokes for the last six or seven years.)

July 31: Dream: This one was very long and involved, so, of course, I forgot
a lot at the beginning. I KNOW it was interesting too! Anyway, from where I
remember, I was with a tall thin man with dark hair who looked to me like the
actor Pierce Brosnan, and he was waving a scalpel around in the air, and said
he had stabbed his wife in the back with it. He seemed totally unconcerned
about it, as if there wasn't anything to worry about at all. I felt rather
shocked, and said, "You stabbed her in the back?!?!!!" He still looked
unconcerned. He took off down the hill as if there was some emergency, and
another man, with blonde hair, said to me, "He isn't who you think he is." I
sort of shrugged him off, though I was bothered by what he'd said, and
started to follow "Pierce" down the hill, but he had gone so far ahead that
he was out of sight.

I came to this spot where things looked really chaotic, like maybe a
bomb had gone off or something. It looked as if a building had fallen right
into the ground, like the Earth swallowed it whole, and I was standing above
the roof of this building. It had a big jagged hole in the center of the
roof, and I could see through the hole down to the floors below, and there
were too many to count. Each floor had the same jagged hole in it, so I
could keep seeing more and more floors below, and thought it must have been a
skyscraper. Everything looked broken and chaotic. The only way to go after
"Pierce" was to cross this building, but I decided it was too dangerous, and
that I didn't have the equipment or skills to make it safely, besides which,
I was still bothered by what the blonde man had said about Pierce not being
who I thought he was. I didn't want to risk falling into that seemingly
bottomless hole. So, I turned back and started walking back up the hill.

(Notes: the scalpel could, in hindsight, have been a boxcutter, and the
terrorists certainly do seem unconcerned. I had recently seen Pierce Brosnan
in a disaster movie about a volcano erupting and destroying a small town.
Tall thin and dark haired could describe Osama Bin Laden or some of the other
terrorists. The building falling into a hole in the ground is obvious!)

I had, by the way, posted the July 13 and July 31 dreams on an email list on
August 1, with the title "Buildings Falling Into the Ground?" So I know they're
still there in the archives.

Much of this was typed in right after 9/11, so some things have changed.
My ex's wife in this dream was wife # 2, who died March, 2008. He's
remarried again in October, 2008, to wife # 3. And it's been more than 6 or 7 years
that he's had all those health problems, though he seems to be doing
okay. My son says he got his stomach stapled to help his weight problem,
which is a good thing with all that going on! (Also have talked to ex since typing this in for another board, and he says his health is better than it's ever been, so I guess the surgery was a success for him!)

Anyway... I love precognitive dreams, but also get a bit frustrated about there not being *enough* information in them at times. I've always wondered if we all shared dreams more, would we get all the pieces as a group? It is extremely rare to get dates, so it never even occurred to the gravestones were giving me a date, and yet, of course, the date of birth and death is always recorded on gravestones. Shrug... gotta love it!