Dream of 4 horsemen I never new about.

[rodm]

Two Churches on this earth? One real the other not!

Would You Be Able to Be a Christian Without Your Bible?

I WROTE:
Two Churches on this earth? One real the other not!

The Large Visible church, lets call her "The Woman".

The Small Invisible Church, lets call her "The Bride".

The two exist today, they run together, they do some of the same things,
they look alike, they can even participate in the same activities. It
would be impossible for me a mere human, to tell you which of the two
another belongs.

One lives by breath / spirit / a secret way and walk...

The Bride:
This one doesn't need a bible or activities of any religious nature to continue or remain, she stands by the one who called her.

She is of the same family as "The Son". There is something that speaks on
the inside of her, a seed that is the same. She has an inner dialog
with the groom. His Spirit speaks to her.

She doesn't require the scripture to abide in truth, she loves the
scriptures and she sees a place for them. Yet the scriptures have given
birth to one that seeks knowledge and lives by intellect, one who has
forgotten their way. From another tree they eat.

She knows that walking with Jesus is a secret walk, she hears His whisper.
Like a bride she lays next to Him, He shares everything with her, out
of true love, for He is in-love with her. She abides apart from
doing...for His approval doesn't come to her because of her actions.

If she sins, she rests, if she doesn't sin, she rests. This is by his
command. His love and grace are elevated above all other things. He has
made it plain to her that she does not live by actions, to gain His
approval, and she is NOT to place anything above resting IN HIM, for He
is above all.

She judges herself, she sees her own sins, sometimes it becomes plain to
her that she is not as outwardly clean or lovely as "The Woman". But
she does not despair, for she has His love, she possesses His heart, He
longs for her alone, He loves no other.

There are many concubines and virgins among "The Woman". But his eyes follow
the bride and her alone. He sees her many short comings, but this does not
distract from His love. He has removed sin from her, destroying its power,
by giving Himself for her. She saw this torture of His flesh, she
winced at the pain and suffering.

She doesn't condone her wrong, but she realizes she walks with a limp, her
failings are many, and she is not as comely as "The Woman". Still He
runs after her, playing with her, touching her, speaking into her ear
of His love, and desire for her.

Many are in the ranks of "The Woman" some are jealous of His love for her, knowing she is His favorite.

When she says "my husband, I am an ugly flower, a rose bush that is
unsightly". He says "No, you are beautiful to me, from every side I
look your petals are all perfectly formed.

She is privileged in this position, bestowed by Him, upon her.

Some claim to be "The Bride" but are not. Many through the ages have claimed
to belong to Him, but He chose His bride long ago. Why did He chose
her? It is plain that it was mercy...He will parade her in front of all
to display His great love.

Originally Posted by rodm

ARE WE SAVED or LOST via FREE WILL? Do We Choose God or NOT?

We have made a God of free will. God in Romans 9 seems to paint a different picture, and God states that there are some HE created as vessels of dishonor to show his mercy.

The Jews protest Paul's statement, and say "who then can resist his will"

Paul's response back is "Who are you to argue against God!"

God is Sovereign.

Think of the implications: We wouldn't need Christ, and God would never be a redeemer without the fall of Adam and Eve, so was the fall in the garden planned?

We seem to think his hands are somehow tied by our all-powerful human will, but that's not true.

God has mercy on whom he will. Then it says those who were predestined unto salvation believed. Not the other way around. Notice what it says: God calls only those who are to inherit eternal life, because they were in Him from the beginning. Its like collecting eggs out of a chicken farm, you only collect those which already belong to you. God has called me and others are to be revealed which belong to the father's house.

If there was no fall in the garden there would be no Jesus, no eternity.

And surely you don't believe at the fall, God panicked and went running
for plan B?

Scripture is plain as day that the truth is *spiritually* discerned, and the carnal or natural man cannot "get" it. Peter received insight that Jesus is the Christ, and Jesus explained that this revelation was given to him by the Father. Peter didn't just figure it out by being smart or special or holy, and neither do we.

We can't debate people into the kingdom of God - to try to do so, and then condemn or vilify those who aren't interested, is a work of the flesh.

We too often rely on "might" or "power" to change the world, but it's only by His Spirit that real life takes root. We need to afford people some slack, and realize that we believers aren't any better than anyone else.

We have to trust God, for he can do no wrong, he is
holy, and we must trust him with these things...So I say God controls
all things and plans all things and is still without fault. Can your
faith take you that far?

[marywilkinson45]

Hi rodm, When reading dream #1 I was instantly reminded of something that happened to me years ago: I was raised to love the lord we always read the bible we prayed together ect.. I was 17 years old when my father died and the oldest of 6 children. after he died i turned to drugs, drinking, witchcraft, adultry, you name it I did it. about 8 or 9 years later I gave my life to the lord. But I always felt dirty one night I was alsleep and I woke up to half of my body being lifted up from my bed I was praying in the spirit and i had this sence of warmth on me this lasted about a min or two and the I was layed back down on my bed. I remember saying THANK YOU LORD. I went back to sleep. I knew that the had cleansed me of all the wickedness and shame that I carried. I remember feeling so peacfull and thankfull that jesus cared about me to cleanse me so that he can use me.... Dream #3 How happy and pleased he must be with you to let you see and feel the light of his love not just from him but all of those that await you in heaven: BUT you know your work here is still not finished.............. Dream #4 I really do wish that the holy spirit would come upon everyone. As we both know the road to hell is very wide and the road to heaven is very narrow. BLESSINGS TO YOU

[screaminvern]

Hey Mary,rodm & presence and any one else!
I am so glad I found this site because I knew I wasn't alone. I've been serching a long time for other people who have had prophetic dreams.

[marywilkinson45]

Hi screaminvern, I to had been looking and I just stummbled on this site. Here I feel like I am welcome and I am getting alot of help with dreams etc. that have had an effect on my life. thier are so many nice people here. I hope to hear from you soon. BLESSINGS TO YOU.

[nobody]

Originally Posted by rodm

Two Churches on this earth? One real the other not!

Would You Be Able to Be a Christian Without Your Bible?

I WROTE:
Two Churches on this earth? One real the other not!

The Large Visible church, lets call her "The Woman".

The Small Invisible Church, lets call her "The Bride".

The two exist today, they run together, they do some of the same things,
they look alike, they can even participate in the same activities. It
would be impossible for me a mere human, to tell you which of the two
another belongs.

One lives by breath / spirit / a secret way and walk...

The Bride:
This one doesn't need a bible or activities of any religious nature to continue or remain, she stands by the one who called her.

She is of the same family as "The Son". There is something that speaks on
the inside of her, a seed that is the same. She has an inner dialog
with the groom. His Spirit speaks to her.

She doesn't require the scripture to abide in truth, she loves the
scriptures and she sees a place for them. Yet the scriptures have given
birth to one that seeks knowledge and lives by intellect, one who has
forgotten their way. From another tree they eat.

She knows that walking with Jesus is a secret walk, she hears His whisper.
Like a bride she lays next to Him, He shares everything with her, out
of true love, for He is in-love with her. She abides apart from
doing...for His approval doesn't come to her because of her actions.

If she sins, she rests, if she doesn't sin, she rests. This is by his
command. His love and grace are elevated above all other things. He has
made it plain to her that she does not live by actions, to gain His
approval, and she is NOT to place anything above resting IN HIM, for He
is above all.

She judges herself, she sees her own sins, sometimes it becomes plain to
her that she is not as outwardly clean or lovely as "The Woman". But
she does not despair, for she has His love, she possesses His heart, He
longs for her alone, He loves no other.

There are many concubines and virgins among "The Woman". But his eyes follow
the bride and her alone. He sees her many short comings, but this does not
distract from His love. He has removed sin from her, destroying its power,
by giving Himself for her. She saw this torture of His flesh, she
winced at the pain and suffering.

She doesn't condone her wrong, but she realizes she walks with a limp, her
failings are many, and she is not as comely as "The Woman". Still He
runs after her, playing with her, touching her, speaking into her ear
of His love, and desire for her.

Many are in the ranks of "The Woman" some are jealous of His love for her, knowing she is His favorite.

When she says "my husband, I am an ugly flower, a rose bush that is
unsightly". He says "No, you are beautiful to me, from every side I
look your petals are all perfectly formed.

She is privileged in this position, bestowed by Him, upon her.

Some claim to be "The Bride" but are not. Many through the ages have claimed
to belong to Him, but He chose His bride long ago. Why did He chose
her? It is plain that it was mercy...He will parade her in front of all
to display His great love.

Where did you get this info? From a dream or did you read it somewhere?

[rodm]

No I wrote it myself...

Originally Posted by nobody

Where did you get this info? From a dream or did you read it somewhere?

[nobody]

Originally Posted by rodm

No I wrote it myself...

Hmm where did you get your inspiration?

[lucidlight]

beautiful. testimony this is why i joined this sight. people think that the things we say cannot be true because it is to perfect to be true. think of a puzzle of a million peaces with half of them missing. how can you put the puzzle together.
to have the holes filled, your darkest secrets forgiven, to have ones mind opened to things unfathomable without his knowledge. i had questions in my mind that he could only answer, they where answered. my testimony is one to the power of prayer and what the shepherd will do for his lost sheep.
i started typing it and he stopped me. i dont know why. i have not seen a testimony like mine.

[rodm]

lol...I just started to write, and look to the inside...I just write what I believe...

For example, soon I believe Jesus will reveal the ecklesia...It will be HIM appearing in a body, but not singular, as He did at His birth, then He was killed (crucifixion)...Now He will a appear again in US HIS Bride, (in HIS body) pleural.
Bless you.

Originally Posted by nobody

Hmm where did you get your inspiration?