Message from Jesus to the nation

[hazelflame]

Originally Posted by IrisRavenstar

Dear Hazel,

That guy's name sounds like "Snow Blowin'", and one should be cautious when presented with a snow job! It's rather like the meaning of "blowing smoke." All this stuff about the Illuminati is just a red herring, distracting from what is important, much like dwelling on the idea of Armageddon.

The reference to Lucifer as light bearer, or Star of the Morning comes from Isaiah, but one should also consider that in the Book of Revelation, it is JESUS who identifies (reveals?) himself as the Bright Morning Star. These things are meaningful! Pay attention!

Try to see redemption as a path, rather than an instant kind of thing. Okay, so if you see Lucifer, fallen from Heaven for refusing to serve God's children, and here he is, on Earth, and oh centuries or millenia later (perhaps a Bible scholar could tell us the length of time between Isaiah and Jesus?), he's finally come back as Jesus. Now bear with me here... psychic Edgar Cayce actually channeled a great deal of information about Jesus's earlier incarnations, though I don't know if it was meant to be literal, but just to make us aware that Jesus may have lived more than one lifetime. But Lucifer, refusing to serve mankind, goes through lifetimes of living with that attitude and arrogance, and then he comes back finally as Jesus, the man who really finally understands and gets the Big Picture... he is ONE with the Father, as are ALL of God's children, whether or not they've figured it out yet, and as Jonah learned, regardless of birthright or religion.

It's a journey out of darkness and into The Light, one every person has to take. It's about becoming aware of the Indwelling Presence of God, of the Holy Spirit as the Life Force within us. If we're not conscious of that indwelling presence, then we're not yet conscious at all, really... like somewhere in here someone mentioned the animals not knowing their right hand from their left hand... symbolically, not knowing right from wrong... often, we do not, but we have to learn. When we are conscious of the Indwelling Presence (which is the meaning of Gnosis, really), then we are connected in an aware way to God, and to the help and guidance that God brings to us in a variety of ways, and it can change our lives, and ultimately, the world. When we know God is right there, inside, all we have to do is ask for help when we're confused about the right choices to foster Highest Good for all concerned parties. God will not let us down!

Something to think about!

Hello Irisraven...
Well, I have thought about alot of what you have said already, because my research has never truely ended...its in on-going process. Also, the reference from Bill Schnoebelen was only 1 reference that I was pointing out. There is tons & tons of more information out there other than this guy. I would rather each individual take the time out do research this subject, because its ALL their for us to discover...just waiting, & waiting. (but we must knock first)
Although, if anyone wants any more reference Ill be happy to point that out for you.
For the Jesus being the same a Lucifer....that is just nonsense. It calls Jesus Christ The bright and morning star. It calls Lucifer, among other things, titles which are entirely different. Remember how Satan mimics every thing Jesus Christ does- or he tries to mimic it All. For even Satan can masquerade as an angel of light. He may be called a star of the morning or a star, but he is never given the exact same title as Jesus Christ. Lucifer was created with great beauty, which ultimately led to his pride and downfall. He is an Archangel of the Cherubim class.
Another thing you said, that the illuminati is just a distraction from whats important: Yes & No Let me ask you this, If what myself & others have concluded about this "Secret Society" to be accurate,...then without this knowledge how could you identify the 'True' darkness masquerading as the "light?"
Sometimes, to before you can understand or even really 'appreciate' the blessings in your life, you have to 1st go through personal trials & tribulations to develop that understanding of what those blessings mean....right?

Well, its the same here. Each individual has to be able to "Identify" the darkness 1st before they can reach the TRUE light. Why is this world turning to literal crap? Its because we have been worshipping the FALSE light & most dont even know it. But hey dont take my word for it....do some digging. Everything with our government is not right...and we allow them each day to continue the trend of putting a blindfold on us.

Also, its funny that you brought up my "Old" quote:

Ezekiel 8:16

"With their BACKS toward the temple of the LORD & their FACES toward the East, they were Bowing Down to the SUN in the EAST."

The reason why, is because that very SAME DAY I posted this on here, GUESS what happened?
I had a man come over my house masquerading as a house refinancer, & GUESS what he was wearing? I Square & Compass with the letter "G" inside of it. He was a FREE-Mason. (probably believed he was doing good, though)

He even told me that theres a *new* club for women called, "The Eastern STARS."
Now I ask, why would they send him over my house IF they didnt take offense of me Uncovering their TRUE Identity?

[Ashe2214]

Thank you so much for sharing. God bless u for this!!

It's true that the intercessor team I'm within, always focuses to pray for Israel, I;m now 26 and I;m glad there are actually people out there still think deep of Lord Jesus' words.

I will spread this message by providing the link to other forums, fb, webs.


Praise The Lord.

[mwyna]

Originally Posted by hazelflame

The reason why, is because that very SAME DAY I posted this on here, GUESS what happened?
I had a man come over my house masquerading as a house refinancer, & GUESS what he was wearing? I Square & Compass with the letter "G" inside of it. He was a FREE-Mason. (probably believed he was doing good, though)

He even told me that theres a *new* club for women called, "The Eastern STARS."
Now I ask, why would they send him over my house IF they didnt take offense of me Uncovering their TRUE Identity?

Hazel, do you really think they would send free masons to your house to intimidate you? I don't think they would. There are a squillion and one conspiracy websites online against the free masons etc and I sincerly doubt they are sending people out to intimidate all those people making those websites. If they are, then they aren 't very intimidating obviously as the websites are still about. Am I the only one in the world lately who isn't fearing people simply because they are members of this club or that? I am beginning to wonder!
Anyway on to this thread. One thing that I really don't understand is how easily people confuse (perhaps on PURPOSE) the messages for the PEOPLE of Israel with the Nation of Israel.

[hazelflame]

Mwyna,
So YOU seriously doubt that their sending people over to intimidate them? HOW to you know that? Where you their to speak upon these peoples behalf? There is NO way to possibly ever know this.
Also, during this time we were trying to meet with a refinancer off & on for a Month! It was suppose to be a women, & at the last second they changed it to a Man.
He also CALLED my husband to make that appointment that Exact same day at the Exact same TIME I originally finished posting that Post.

Exactly @ 03-26-2009, 02:51 PM

I am NOT afraid of these societies which is why I am posting here at ALL. I know GOD has his protection over me & my family. However, Im sure there is ALOT of people out their afraid of what they can do to them....because anyone messing with their "PLAN" (on downgrading society) is easily dispensable to them. Which would give these people every reason to keep their mouth SHUT....
I dont live in Fear hun, I just know its about time to let the Truth out.

[mwyna]

Originally Posted by hazelflame

Mwyna,
So YOU seriously doubt that their sending people over to intimidate them? HOW to you know that? Where you their to speak upon these peoples behalf? There is NO way to possibly ever know this.
Also, during this time we were trying to meet with a refinancer off & on for a Month! It was suppose to be a women, & at the last second they changed it to a Man.
He also CALLED my husband to make that appointment that Exact same day at the Exact same TIME I originally finished posting that Post.

Exactly @ 03-26-2009, 02:51 PM

I am NOT afraid of these societies which is why I am posting here at ALL. I know GOD has his protection over me & my family. However, Im sure there is ALOT of people out their afraid of what they can do to them....because anyone messing with their "PLAN" (on downgrading society) is easily dispensable to them. Which would give these people every reason to keep their mouth SHUT....
I dont live in Fear hun, I just know its about time to let the Truth out.

Yes I doubt the masons are going around peoples houses with lapel pins to duff people up, while others may suspect it is true. That is the beauty of us all having the ability to think for ourselves. There is little proof that either are right however correct? My friends husband is a mason, as was the builder who did my bathroom. Really I find it difficult to believe either are bad people based on a club they joined. Nor were they angry when I discussed with them both at length the fact women weren't able to join. No one came by after these discussions with a lapel pin, to intimidate me, put me in my womanly place or any other such thing. Perhaps you are right I have no clue. I don't know what you've said that could anger a whole group of people or cause them to feel the need to stop you saying whatever it is. At any rate, I don't doubt there are people afraid, but they really shouldn't be. There is a FINE LINE between people being made aware of potential situations and causing fear or suspicion of entire groups of people.

[IrisRavenstar]

Well, Hazel,

Perhaps you can try and see if your RESEARCH can tell you when the Eastern Star, which is an organization for the wives of Freemasons, was founded. Just try finding out without going to conspiracy websites, okay? You might find a rational answer that way!

While you're at it, check out Rainbow Girls and DeMolay.

When words are translated from other languages, and surely you know this is the case with the Bible, then often the wording is not exactly the same. The meaning matters more than the wording. Interesting, too, that Satan could manage to have Isaiah call him something that allegedly mimics Jesus ages before Jesus was born.

Ignorance obviously knows no bounds.

You probably don't even know that hazel is used for witch's wands... oh, my!

And, oooh, how scary, the refinancer is a Freemason... ohmigod... eeek! I'd better run!

[IrisRavenstar]

You are so smart, Mwyna! Today's Masonic Lodges are more like service organizations, like the Lions Club, than anything else. Historically, there were no women, because historically, it was a club for Medieval stone masons, who were all men! There are now many Co-Masonic lodges which do allow women, though the Eastern Star has been there for women for a long time. I was a Rainbow Girl as a teenager. My father and my ex's father were both Freemasons. I won't go on at length, as have already talked about that here. There is no plot to overtake the world. I have to laugh at such a silly idea. What I learned from Rainbow Girls was more to do with mysticism than anything else, and it was fun!

Some people seem to find paranoia is fun, or gives their lives meaning. I have never understood that. Some of them turn into serial killers... now, that's scary!

[hazelflame]

Iris,
Now how do you ever expect me to take someone like you serious when youve obviously already chosen a side without actually researching. I dont care WHO you knew or know as a Free-mason. Acting Condescending isnt making you look any smarter either. More like a helpless act of Desperation to sound knowledgeable....Lol.

And when I said there was a new club for women called the "Eastern Stars" I was quoting the Mason who told me (not myself)....I didnt have to research what he said. Although, if your correct that just means he was a Lower-Level Mason who obviously didnt know what he was talking about.

So Iris, the next time you try to "Act" like your being Civil with me, Please dont Act....Im not fond of FAKE people. Im a very honest person...esp. when it comes to the TRUTH.

Which makes me wonder, if you werent so HIGH up on your Horse...you would actually ANSWER some of my questions pertaining why this fellow Free-mason even came to my house that Same AFTERNOON??

But I guess thats too much for your head to wrap around....

Just ignore the OBVIOUS,....& continue on living your life in a LIE.

God judges us all....& eventually we will all see in the End.

(BTW--this is my last response to your CONDESCENDING POST(s))

I pray you find the Truth,
HAZEL

PS-
God CREATES Everything.........No need to fear any of it,...I just dont WORSHIP what he Creates thats the Difference!

[IrisRavenstar]

Wow, talk about a rude little witch!

Just by virtue of being 62, I suspect I've learned a good deal more than a 26 year old who's all mouth, with no sign of actual thinking taking place.

If you're so into research, how could you just take this guy's word for it that the Eastern Star was a new group? It's been around in the U.S. since 1850, and was actually possibly started in France in 1703.

Perhaps he just came to see you for the exact reason he gave? About finances? Is that impossible in your paranoid little brain?

Actually, I was trying to be civil with you, Child, but it's obviously impossible.

If you're expecting me to cry over that being your last post, don't hold your breath! Really, you are a very silly creature to even think it would matter!

As for your PS, I haven't a clue what you're yacking about. What, pray tell, is it that you think I'm worshipping? Oh, yeah, nevermind, you're never speaking to me again, so you can't answer that.

I will pray for you that you find your BRAIN and your HEART and the COURAGE to use them! But only, of course, if it is for your Highest Good.

Good night, Hazel... be careful of that wand now!

[person85]

oh dear.. thankyou for delivering this message. though God was not mad at you, He just wanted you to spread His message. and to me, so many people are confused. love your neighbors as yourself and God most of all. ask for forgiveness and mean it. remember, God is the only one god, the father almighty, creator of everything. God,the Holy Spirit, and Jesus have been here for always.Be kind, especially when it is hard. Do not judge, or you will be judged, for you are not perfect. Love, especially when it is difficult.Men show feelings,but boys do not.Do kindness for others, you will be paid back in more ways than you can imagine, and not just that wonderful feeling.