jesus will come back

[resin8love]

Reincarnation is not real. Familiar spirits are. We are not all children of GOD, read your text.

[holydiver]

Hello cherubin.

Lots of questions....

With faith your reading into it to much. Believing isnt faith, Its just believing. You would be supprised at how many people just believe, and dont actually know anything. Most go by what they hear someone say, but they have no experiance for themselves. To believe you turn the page of a bible, and God lead you there, is just that, Believing.

Faith is knowing truth, God showing you he is there, God showing you what the scriptures mean so you wont sin. Not putting your salvation into someone elses hands. Living life in a certain way as you know the truth for yourself, because you Asked God, and he gave the answer.

Just because Jesus said to check out his wounds, didnt mean they didnt have faith, it meant they didnt trust outsiders because according to Pual others tryed to decieve them, and change what God set into place, much like today.

For those who do not see but yet believe, are because of Jesus gospel, those who were tought by Jesus, and sent out his word. For those who were able to see the truth despite the trickery of others. Because just like today, there are people who sway others from his truth.

Everyone decended from heaven...... Not just Jesus, This is why you might confused, because instead of praying for the answer and looking in the bible, and thinking about it, you listened to people who either dont understand or have a vested interest in what they do. Spending time in the bible, you will find it says it.

With Elijah coming to restore all things, he did that with ball, but was not John the baptist, though it did have something to do with baptizm. The concepts of God, is that time has no bearing on Gods word, if a person is shown by God.

The Jews of Jesus time where looking for the prophesied king to come and save them, they thought this king would destroy the Roman empire, and is why they rejected Jesus as their savior.

The phrase, I am, is not translated right, it actually is translated, what i am becoming.

With John the baptist, that passege you keep saying about him being Elijah the prophet, is highly debated on its actual translation. So would depend on the believer as to what was true or maybe even the translation.

The vision with Moses and Elijah the prophet, and since you havnt seen it for yourself, will describe its meaning to you. The vision is a triangulation of the same meaning for the same effort. Given by God for and because of the general salvation efforts, to lead people away from Apostacey which is sin, because missinerpreting The Bible is a sin, Which was the inspired word of God, which is only given to those who are serious about being saved. The word given by people is to convince them to be saved, but unfortunatley most are wrong because they are not tought how to do this, or that it exists. Elijah is Elijah the prophet of ball, who is not John the baptist. Therfore the prophesys are missinterpreted, and also the translation which you refere to.

The reason John the baptist is not Elijah the Prophet, is because He kept his body, which you keep saying he was reincarnated, and therfore your reasoning for posting over and over. Either everyone follows Jesus example, to be baptized for the rezerection, or they can choose not to.

Born Again..... Which the term means to take on a form as a child, to start over with your thinking, or to be changed by God to a child like state so that a person can relearn the right way. Like in emptying a glass so it can be reflilled with new water. In order to enter heaven, by learning from God, a person has to want to learn. When i was a child, i thought like a child, I acted like a child, but when i grew up, i put childish things away. If you want to be like a lawyer, you learn from others who were lawyers, but if you around coal workers, trying to be like a lawyer, they the coal workers, wont let you be any more than a coal worker. Everyone is born of the spirit because they come from heaven. Born of water is the baptizm that needs to be done in order for the rezerection, which is the form of being born again, as children obey their parents.

Both the Old Jewish or hebrew belief, along with the muslim beliefs are of and only the old testement. Those testements with the arch of the covenant are past, they no longer have control because God changed it with Jesus. We no longer have to make a sacrafice for our sins by the offering. Thats because Jesus became the final offering. Which means the old beliefs of reincarnation were not true, Which stems from old prophesys of someone coming to restore everything. Which was the reason for Moses, Elijah and Jesus. John the baptist was shown by God, by Elijah the prophet, which was the reason they got so confused over it. Though the orignal church of Christ was wiped out, they being hunted down and wiped out after Jesus was crusified. Thus resulting that Elijah would have to return afterward to restart everything.

Peace and love in Jesus.

[holydiver]

Hello Cherubin.

I put some thought into it today, so i could tell you better in this post from the last.

In the movie 300, the samarian kings messenger bring leonidise a offering of fire and water, the symbolism of fire and water are new rulerships, but with mercey of forgivness.

With Noah and the flood, there were no rules as written for fire, or judgment of the law, though there was forgivness. So only water came, which is of the spirit, because the spirit showed Adam how to redeem himself from the sin.

Then came Moses, He being shown with fire, was given the written form. With this form comes confusion, because what is written is always for bad news, as good news is delivered in person. Where the human form is, there is a Egoe, which is not from God who keeps his word. So with the Egoe there is a difference between what is delivered in person and what is written. What is written then became Law, because of the unforgiving nature of the human form.

During the time of the Hebrew captivity under Egytpion rule, all hebrews were kept without the same rights as others. So they had to be deceptive in their nature, if they were to do anything. In captivity they always were in trouble, even if they didnt do anything wrong, and their nature reflected that treatment. When the time came to deliver what God thought would be a messege for people to get closer to him, the hebrews turned it into a form of blame, because this was their nature by being blamed. That made God upset, and the hebrews wandered untill those who were like that were gone, and God could work with who remained. There being no differance in disagrement between the people and Moses, or God and Moses.

On the hebrews excape, it was a pillar of fire that seperated them captivity, the symbol for new government under God, then the crossing of water to symbolize salvation of the human form.

Then we have Elijah the Prophet, who being tormented by a evil king and queen, and their propehts of ball. Eliahs people literally being stomped out of existance much like Adams family with Cains family, and the Hebrews with the Egypton king. We know this because of the actions of God.

Elijah the Prophet ended up making a apointment with God to meet with the Prophets of ball to prove once and for all who the real God was. Elijah made a offering the same as the prophets of ball to their God, with one differance. That Elijah placed water onto the offering. Since Egoe didnt have anything to do with water, the water symbolized salvation of life. What was going to take the place of fire, or as the same as fire. So burning, and its opposite Qeunching being one in the same. So not only did Adam, Moses, and Elijah know about God and his rules, they also knew of salvation and forgivness in order to change. Which is also known as baptizm. They also knew that God was always another, known as Jesus. They almost never apart and showing themselves together.

Even after Jesus died on the cross, they stabed him to make sure he was dead, and water came out instead of blood.

These things in the old testement were summed up by apostle Paul in Second Corinthians 3, in the new testement. That basically it didnt matter if we were Jewish following the laws of Moses, or none Jewish not following the Laws of Moses, because Both didnt follow them the way God intended. Because the Judism of the time used the law to blame, and make themselves look good eventhough they didnt follow it themselves. Even Jesus had a hard time with them in the temple, always trying to make themselves look good in front of onlookers. Jesus tought that there was a honest way to know God, and what to do to be saved. Judism like many churchs today dont know God, and use it to make themselves look good because its a buisness, not that it has anything to do with knowing God, because then you wouldnt make any money not cheating anyone.

How the letter written on stone, or with ink was thought of as law, and with that law man hardened his heart against God. But when we use what God gave us in the right way, to get closer to God, and do whats right in his eyes, we are changed, even by God himself. Beholding as in a glass, or jar, is remebering how we were treated growing up, as children, isnt the same when we raise children of our own. Its basically placing ourselves in the shoes of others that finally sin can be forgiven.

The letter written on the heart, is because the letter alone was never meant to show anyone how to do anything, it was never meant to be self exlanitory, as it needs the writer to explain it, the one who does it. This is the example. This is what all the greats knew.

Jesus standing on the hill, having been seen by his apostles in a vision with Moses and Elijah, and this is why they wanted to build three taberancles. Moses delivered the fire, and Elijah delivered the water, and Jesus fulfilled the requirments of the law, doing and fulfilling his purpose for and with God. The change from Fire to water, water puting out the fire, to achieve change. Therfore no sacrifice of animals is needed, because the sacrafice of Jesus paid the price for our sin, once and for all. We are still acountable for our action, and must answer for all our action, though acidents happen, and are forgiven for those who do not know.

Peace and love in Jesus.

[powershaker]

I was in an one story house with a lot of drug dealers, and we were harvesting cocaine. I never had harvested cocaine before, and I saw that this one man was explaing to me how to do it. I saw the cocaine dust, the plants and everything in my dream. I didn't know what to really think.

Suddenly, there was a series of cracks of thunder pealing through the skies, and these cracks of thunder were unlike any thunder I had ever heard. Over and over and over again the cracks of thunder pealed through the sky, and everyone in the house ran outside scared. I felt the ground shake, the thunder cracking endlessly in my ears and over the whole world. Awestruck, scared and without knowledge of the situation, I ran outside to see many people running scared all around me. At first, I did not know what was happening. I thought perhaps there was a huge tidal wave or something natural coming upon us, and perhaps we were all heading towards an oblivion of sorts. But, soon, I knew what it was.

I saw the clouds in the skies spread out like a sheet and roll through the sky like a wave in the ocean. The clouds colored in grays, blues, purples and whites. The clouds darting and rolling fast throughout the sky as I fell on my knees and clasped my hands together in prayer. I said, "Lord Jesus, forgive me for my sins as I forgive those who sin against me! Forgive me, Lord! Forgive me!" What a situation? To be in the middle of sin, and then Jesus returns just as He left. I was totally afraid! It was the Lamb of God coming out of the sky with the clouds just as He left. I knew it was Him, and I couldn't even really see Him up there. I couldn't see Him, but I knew from this unbelievable event who this was who was coming with the clouds. I fell down on my knees immediately! I could hear the crackles and peals of thunder audibly in my ears, too.

This was like no other dream I've ever had. Never in my life have I had such real and vivid dream. I don't know what all of this means, but I woke up this morning, and I told Mama about it. I believe this may be a message from the Lord that it is near, everyone. How many times have I ever wrote you about one of my dreams? Very rarely. But, this dream was the most unbelievable thing I have ever experienced in my entire life. He will be coming with the clouds in power and great glory. Now, I know why the WHOLE world will mourn. Now, I know from my dream. Even the least sinful of us will be MOURN. We will MOURN, because you who are saved will feel as I felt in my dream. Even though you believe, and everyone else is running around scared, you will fall down on your knees in fear, because you fear the Lord. You know all your sins, and you know you'll be facing the music. What if you're sinning when He comes back? What if you're looking at internet porn, telling a lie, hurting someone physically, telling some child He doesn't exist, sleeping around on your wife or husband, doing a line of cocaine, getting drunk thinking He won't come back anytime soon??? What if you are in the middle of a HUGE sin according to God? What if we're not keeping His commandments, as Jesus told us to do? What if we say we're a Christian, but do not follow the word of the Bible and try to live as He wants us to? I send this as a warning to all people I know, because in my dream I know how I felt. This dream happened on August 11, 2008 at approximately 6:00AM. Nothing that speaks of Christ unless such a dream is from God.

Like I said, this was an amazing dream, and it was like nothing I've ever experienced. Don't get caught up in truly serious sin and violations of the Lord's commandments, because He just may come back today, tomorrow or next week. I believe it just might be VERY soon, and I felt that I must tell my closest friends. It was pretty scary, amazing and the most real thing I've ever dreamed. It might be a warning to me and for me to give other people. All I know is: WOW!

Only a year and a half ago, I was Born Again, and the Holy Spirit showed me things and now this. A dream! A powerful dream! Maybe someone knows what it all means. I am amazed! I told my mother all about it. I feel it only could be from Jesus. A warning for us to all be prepared! Not caught in a bad sin, because He will return when we least expect Him. Like a thief in the night, you know?

[cherubin101]

Originally Posted by resin8love

Reincarnation is not real. Familiar spirits are. We are not all children of GOD, read your text.

I did not say we are all children of God. We are all his creation. You can only be called children of God if you fallow God's work and obeyed his rules. Which none of us ever do.

[cherubin101]

To holydiver,

hello there! I guess it doesn't really matter whether you believe in reincarnation. Those question are not really for me. It is for people should be looking at and ask for themselves. After writing those comments about reincarnation I received a dream and my dream is that my mom and I and a spiritual person who came to summon my sister spirit and the spirit he summon is not my sister but an evil death. He has skeleton face and wearing a dark cloth. My mom still believe that she was my sister but when I look at the spirit she wasn't. Because in my mind she is living now with us. I told the evil spirit "you cannot be my sister." and The evil told me "You should listen to your mother." and I replied "No you are not my sister and I will not join you if that is what you want." Then I woke up.

My mother in real life is very religious type and she is a catholic. She would believe just about everything. In real life I told my sister not to go to the catholic church anymore because we have been worshiping idols. I did not say that to my mom because it will destroy her faith. She will only think that I am evil and a sinner. My mom even hired an exorcist just for us because we refuse to go to church every sunday specially me. First they tried my eldest sister and she got all crazy and evil voice coming out of her mouth. It is like almost 2 hours work taking the evil spirit out. Then they tried it on me if I have evil spirit too so they tried and could not get any evil spirit. The person who did it is in a cult type of organization. I don't know where my mom find her she just show up in our house. She even tried to make my sister join the group. She invited my mom to join and donate some money for their religion which she did. We even went to the place. The place give me a bad vibes it is like there is always somebody watching me even when I am alone. I told my sister and my mom what I think of the place and thank God that my mom did not join that cult because later on the police raided the place. Thank God for that!

Now, I will tell you about my sister who died. This is when I was a teenage maybe 13 or 14. That day we are both in the balcony and just chating. Then I realize that she have this bracelet in her arms. I ask her "where she got that?" She said her boyfriend gave it to her. Then I told her about my dream about a bracelet. I said to her "So it was you in my dream about the bracelet" and she said "Why? What did you dream about?" And I told the dream and I told her my interpretation. I told her "You should return it because what the bracelet means unfulfilled marriage." She wasn't happy ofcourse and she told me it is only a dream. Years had past and she had a news about her getting married on the same guy and later on one months before her wedding she got murdered. (It is hard to tell you about this story. I even stop interpreting peoples dreams because of this until I have a dream that she is with us again.) My parents think that I am very different.
Even people I just knew. When I try some hobby or if I try something new and becomes natural to me they will ask me if I have done it before because I learn them quickly. Then I wonder why I am different. I also wonder about my dreams about angels. Then I read something that angels are talented creature and cherubim in my dream are God's knowledge or wisdom.

My recent one just today this afternoon is that I am collecting people or gathering people in groups. I am dividing good people from bad. and that is about it.

The other dream I have is days ago and it is about Satan trying to convince me to join him. He said to me that he already deceive all the people and there is nothing for me to collect. Satan promise me The city of Rome and It was beautiful and enchanted and untouch. But I am an immaterial person and I did not care about his offer. So I told satan no and I flew with wings and look and look for people until I found someone. It was hard for me to find them. Then I woke up.

I also have dream years ago It is about a special child.
The first dream about this special child is that I rescued him from the people who want to harm him and we are hidding on the bush like in a swamp until the army is gone...

the other dream is that I was taking this boy in a carriage into a safer place and I found a garden It has surrounded by fence and in the middle is a big dark stone and there I put him in top of this huge dark stone then the special boy sent me away. He touch me and said "Go". In my mind I understand what he meant. When he push me and say go. I went around and around him in air in circle and starting to fly like a wind and I started to have wings and my clothes change and my body and wings started to flame and all of the sudden I am holding a sword and it is in flame also and I have this strong feelings of wrath to distroy a city.

I also dream of the anti-christ.
When I told you about my dream about the four angels this is one of the duty that continue on my dreams. This dream I was sent to spy and be the eyes of God. I saw a church and I went to the top of the church and on the top I saw a golden angel guarding this big triangle with writings in it that I could not understand on the side. In the middle of the triangle it is dark spirit and creature hiding in it. that is the end

I can tell you what the dreams really mean and who is this anti-christ is.
I can tell you maybe some other time but this is for now because I have headache from my last dream this afternoon collecting and grouping people.

God bless!!!

[holydiver]

Hello cherubin.

The devil is a pretty tricky charecter, your right about him. Though..... what you have to be carfull about is his motives, because he is so trickey. His favorit move is to be scarry, and in that to drive you out from that place. For instance, a person posted a dream, and in that dream he went into a room where he saw his grandfather rocking in a chair. When he went into that room his grandfather was really the devil, and he found out by speaking to him, he ran out of that room. The point being, the devil wanted him to think of him when he saw his grandfather, so it would seperate them, and drive him from the place that was safest for him. Wisdom, and family is the enemy of the devil. He like to seperate people, so they have to do things on their own without help from others. That way he can influence a persons thoughts, which will determin their actions. Most people that do it, rebel against other family members outright. There being a differance between someone that does what everyone else in their family does, but finds flaws in it, and someone who just plain rebels against everything within the family.

Because of my prayers, i wanted to do great things for God and mankind. One night i had a dream that a man came to me, and wanted me to be his friend, and he was showing me great rich's, money, Gold, Sky scrapers, Women, Power beyond everything, and he would give me all this, just if i would be his friend. At the time, I believed in shutting all the doors around me, to keep bad spirits away from me, so at night i would go around and close all the doors. That night I realized i was talking to the devil, and i had to force myself awake, and am the only person i know of that can force themselves awake even out of a paralizing sleep state. I woke up sitting up in bed, with my hand holding something elses hand, and the same image before me i was dreaming about. That person walked backwards into my closet, and disapeared into the dark, i reached over and turned on the light, and there before me my closet door was open.

I know from experaince, the differance in having dreams, and having those things part of your waking life, is actually doing things for God. Dreams being a part of the spiritual world, only bring information on asked question, but can be very hard to tell the meaning of them. The meanings come from the waking life overlapping the dream world. But a person can only interpret them right if they keep seeing those things repeat. One time is only a basic idea, but several times of the same thing gives a better look. The reason the things from the dreams overlap real life is because of a willingness to do Gods will. Though this is a agrement with God to do what he wants, which is for salvation, and self preservation. Basically from sin.

The main differance between God and the devil, is this. God never just reveals himself to anyone, he is hidden from sin, and sinners. We have to go to him, we have to seek him out, and we have to ask him for forgivness. We have to ask him for gifts. The devil on the other hand, seeks to make friends without seeking him out, he will offer gifts, and offer agrements. The devil will come with fear, use your fear against you, and will manipulate you to get what he wants. The devil will use greed, and your weakness against you, and anything he can use to sway you from God.

With each thing God reveals to us, the devil is there to put something in as a fake marker, to keep us from God. The devil may even come before God answers pretending he is a angel, and will use something you already believe in to keep you from God. God cannot interfere because of what a person has already convinced themselves of, so it ties the hands of God keeping him from helping. A person has to have a open mind, and willingness to change themselves to whatever it is God wants.

The true marker for God, is overcoming evil. This is when death is upon you, and death has come for you, and your going to die. This is a spiritual death from the devil himself, a suppression from God by the devil of everything evil that he can muster, and its wieght is to much to bear. Its because of this overwelming truthfull death that your about to have, that when God is called he comes to help. Without this step, and this step has to be real not imagined, Getting to God is impossible. That means its impossible to pass to the next step without it.

The lessons can be from life going into dreams, which would be the same thing but people really have a hard time with interpreting what they see to their dream state, and spiritual state of being. From what God has shown to me we are three states of being at the same time, one being of a physical state, the other being of a mental state, the third being a spiritual state. How they work together is that the mental state dictates the physical state of being. What we believe in is what we do, and what we do effects our spiritual state. So in order for God to help, he first has to change our minds, which that effects what we do, and that effects our spiritual state. That comes from God being the mental state of comandments, Jesus being the physical state of right thinking, and the holy spirit which is our spiritual state after the first two effects. Our spiritual state is our Faith in doing what God showed us to do. Faith is always revealed as a miracle. If the first two states of being were met, then the third state of being is revealed by God through miracle. This does not mean we can understand what we saw as a miracle, or that we can explain it, it just shows a choice that was made because of a right choice.

I do not agree with exorcism myself, exorcism does not get rid of bad choices, it like giving a asprin to someone who cut off their finger. Those people agree'ed to a evil purpose, or even made the agreement with the devil, or made a agrement with someone who had. And thats because they never made it to the opress death state, because of the offer by the devil.

Normally dreams go into a opressed death state, everyone is going to die, the end of the world, but they all go to show the same spiritual meaning because of prayer. This is for unvieling God, because without it we cant see that God exists. This does not mean that any individual has gained a grant from God to do anything person for him. I have always said that everyone has a single mission in life, and thats to go to heaven. Which can only be done by finding someone on earth who has recieved that information from God, which dreams of prophetic nature show. Even if the grant from God was given, it of a personal nature, and will show how its done. But with God everyone is given this right, but must go through the same things, its not any different for one person than it is for another. The only things that might be different is how we relate the same truth.

God sets a example that even he can not waver from, God can not do anything we can not do. Even Jesus with all he could do, couldnt go against what God wanted, or set examples for. Jesus had to follow the rules of men that God set for all mankind, and Jesus Shows those example in the bible if anyone cares to read them. Unfortunatley most people dont know what they read, and cant do those things because they are unable to line themselves with God, and ask him by example or to do things that other people have done by example. Thats the fault of listening to people say that God can do whatever he wants, and that it doesnt mean the same for me because God has something different for me. Either God granted you a gift or he didnt, and if he did then everything read about in the bible you have done to within your own life, and if you havent then your still figuring things out.

The bible wasnt put together to follow, it was put together so that the image of God placed upon you, you would be able to recognize. Like looking into a mirror, as beholding in glass. So that a person that follows God could know that they were not the only ones who had done it. God can only do things that relate to you, but will be the same inspirations as anyone else, but for the same reasoning.

Peace and Love in Jesus.

[cherubin101]

I found this at youtube

YouTube - REINCARNATION, past life evidence, PART 1
YouTube - REINCARNATION, past life evidence, PART 2

It is about a world war II pilot being reincarnated into this young boy.

If you believe in Jacobs ladder this is what it means.
Angels decending and ascending from heaven.
"From dust you are made and into dust you shall return".

[holydiver]

Hello, cherubin 101

Mine didnt start untill i was twelve years old, not as a young boy. The major visions taking place at twelve, fourteen, 18 to 21 years old. At fourteen after being taken by God, and shown unspeakable things, which means that people wouldnt believe it if i told them, that i couldnt pick up and read the bible because i would always start from the begining and read about Moses. Moses i couldnt read because after that experaince was to much like me.

After the major vision at the age of 21, is when i found the first vision in the bible, in second corinthians about being changed by the glory of God. I had a lot of trouble reading about Apostle Paul because he had done everything i had done, just like Moses, except with Moses it was more about talking with God than it was in showing miracles, though the miracles were more directed twards me.

It wasnt untill later in life, that i found a famous person who was very religous who upon hearing about their life, found incredible simularitys. After spending time learning about that individual, i found that their life, and even their visions at the same age's as mine, were exacley the same.

Another person, who was a women after learning this, but didnt know i had trouble with Moses, looked at me and called me Moses. Which i thought was really kind of Odd..........Like how would she know that, but just left it at that.

For me to agree, with what your saying, would be inconceivable. I can agree that im one who knows the same things, and i can agree that because in first corinthians its mentioned about the patterns of the spirit, that i could take on a gift of likness, but i cant agree that the previous three people, Moses, Paul, and the one which shall remain nameless, are all in one me. I can agree that the spirit of God, can influence a personality to conform. Like in loosing oneself, to save oneself.

The only possible explaination i can come up with for you, is that i noticed within many children pictures, expecially in the ghost sites, ghosts show up in childrens pictures, more often while a tv is on.

While i was sitting in my living room about nine years ago, on a dream interpretation web sit, my tv had stoped playing a movie, and had rewound. The blue screen from the VCR was left on, as i was still typing, and thats when i saw something on the other side of the room. As i looked i saw a electric plasma ball, colored blue from the tint of the tv come through the wall, come across the room. I even got up to take a very close look at it, it was in no less of words, flowing like water, but was electric plasma. It then went past me out the other wall. I had never seen anything like that before. I had went to the posting rooms in the ghost sites and had found others who described the same kind of thing. But if it were a ghost, then why didnt it take on the form? But i have seen many incredible things, that come from looking in dark corners, so dont look in dark corners expecting to find something, because it possible you will.

The dark ones, who are the spirits who will never be born, trick everyone. I know from being a young child, that those things i never liked. I dont like them, and they dont like me. So much so that the growl at me if i stumble across them. As i was sitting in my living room describing the sectrets of how to see them to a friend, they began growling. My friend looked at me and asked me what i heard. I didnt expect a reaction like that, and didnt want to freak him out, so i down played the growling for him. To this day he hasnt come back into my house. LoL.

Something for you to look into anyway, but i cant agree with reincarnation for the reasons i gave.

Peace and love in Jesus.

[cherubin101]

Hello!
fair enough! but you do believe that there is spirit right!... Hmm!
Some people had become so attach to this word and never know the truth anymore because of the doctrine that had given to them and they are fix. If you did not look for them they will be forever lost.
that is all I can say.

Love and peace with God.