Obama and McCain

[Golanv]

Originally Posted by dreammachine

April 29, 2008
I had a dream Obama was at a parade in Canada of all places. I ended up interviewing him in another room after the parade. We start talking family, interest, just regular chit chat and we end up in extra curricular activity and I end up pregnant with an Obama baby. My take on all this is: It's a new beginning. Barack will win the election. The baby represents a new world of peace. Canada-not sure what that was all about.
I felt so odd the next day seeing Obama on the news...hahahha funny.
But I really do believe he wins the election and we move forward toward world peace.

I think this is a great take on what's happening and on your dream. And to Pamela, I too believe God is speaking to me through my dreams and has for many years. I do not see an assasination as others have. I see Obama becoming President, but like any other one we must still hold him accountable and participate in our government if we really want it to work. I received this link from a friend in metaphysical group & found it quite interesting. If this is true, it will complete a dream I had in 2003, that the "war" in heaven has already been fought & won. (several others have dreamed this) If enough people enlighten up we could avoid Armageddon and that this would happen. The return of Christ will now be in the hearts of many people, not literally in his former body as it has been interpreted. I would know it is complete when a Lightworker is sent to be the leader. We will turn this country around from 666, number of union & reunion, to 999, number of the philosopher & philanthropist. Let's hope this huge dream is now. Peace ~ Golanv
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...otes060608.DTL

[paisley]

I`m not prophetic or psychic or anything like that but since last year my personal feelings have been that Obama would win, Clinton would be VP and with her long hit list of assassinations, I felt Obama better watch his back or Clinton would make herself Pres. Then when she made that very awkard Kennedy speech, it just seemed strange to me. But as I said, I`m not prophetic so McCain or some independant may rise up and be the next Pres. These are just my thoughts not some psychic premonition or dream. Nonetheless this election has really unraveled in an interesting way. If the campaign had been shortened as many feel it should, perhaps it would be Clinton and Giulianni running since they were originally the ones ahead in all the polls, but as people got to know the other candidates more, the tides turned.

[Tomas]

Hello Golanv,

Just wanted to mention that I have seen in a series of visions about a year ago that a U.S. President would be shot. But I was not told what President - it may be many years until then (if it ever happens). Many of my visions tend to be far into the future, some spanning over 20 years.

On a bright note, I really feel within my heart and also from many messages in my dreams that Jesus will return in this lifetime in some aspect. People have probably said the same for hundreds of years but it hasn't happened yet...

Warmly,

Tomas

[Pamela]

If Obama gets the dream we better really pray. I am afraid that it won't be good.

[Shooting star]

Pamela... My bf has said the exact same thing.. however he refused to comment further on it.. and simply changes the subject.

I feel in my heart that much change to the world will come in the next few years and I feel a sense of urgency to help....

Are you willing to expand on your visions as to why the future president may not be fully good for the nation and the world? If the worst happens that you see... can you see any way in which people can try to help make things better?

[jleshae]

I am all about peace in the world, but I can't see either president we get to be a good thing. Those that hold power will be those that bring on the end. What if Obama is president and Hilary his vice and he fits the description of the antichrist by his talk of world peace being a great intelligent speaker and one that most trust. Or what if he is killed it could also be Hilary by the beleif of the anticrist killing their way into power and she being anticrist in way as not a man like Jesus was and beautiful. There is alot of change coming up in 2008, 8 being the number to represent change.But take a second and think of what we know as prophecy and the world we know today and what scientist are saying the future will hold. The antichrist will spend 6 months building his empire and reign for 3 and a half years and be shot in the head. So if you figure that that would be 4 years ending in 2012 also the end of the presidential term, and oddly when the mayan calanders end. Not to mention the North Pole becoming south and the South becoming North, and the also planets are supposed to line up in 2012. The anniversary of Isreal, the talk of world peace, the peace treaty that Tony Blair is working on now.The Pope talking of one world religion and talk of one world currency. Come on don't any other christians see the dots lining up to be connected.

Just saying it is weird. May God show us who know a way to show others.

[vman]

i had a dream in February about Obama and Hillary clinton. in the dream i saw a tug of war between them that seemed endless then obama won, when he did, he said, "ok now lets begin to organize this nation" and he was sitting at a large desk... three months later he won the democratic nomination. but in the dream it ended with him being overall in charge which to me seems like he won the presidential elections.

[disciple12]

In my dream I did see Obama on screen, and the reporters saying, "Obama's the president." He is looking a little over his right shoulder with a big smile. I sent this over the email list, and received several replies that confirmed it. I usually am kind of unsure about the dreams I receive (depends on what they are) until I hear what other prophets are saying or dreaming. I can step out a little bolder after hearing what other Christians say. Some Christians are older in the Lord...their relationship has been abiding, so they are better accustomed to know what He is trying to say.

I thought about the RFK remark for a long while, and this is my conclusion: it is prophetic. Many prophetic things have been given to us from the media itself. See...Jesus Himself said the most amazing thing, that nothing would be in secret that would not be uncovered. He uses every device available to tell us what is going on. Years ago I never noticed this until He told me something once about...changes (this was 2004). As I was driving out of this town where I heard this word given I happened to look up at a billboard that said..."Change is a coming!" Obama's platform has been...guess what? Change. About that same year there was a series on (which I never watched even once) about a woman in office as president. Do you see a thread?

A year or two before the woman president series came out I had a dream of a woman living in the upper quarters of building. It was odd in that it was somehow connected to a hospital. She had the whole area upstairs, kind of like, on top of the world. There were four names on top of the elevator door that were written in gold. I was angry because I knew they were all involved in something more than just a lower level of evil. It was deeper than any average citizen could ever imagine. My thoughts were that I would expose their evil at every level to the media...I was so angry at them. The grief in my guts was nearly intolerable because of their lies, deceit, and their contract with the upper echelon of evil. I wanted to rip the cloud of darkness off and bring everything to light so that people would see and know the truth, and would grieve because of their niavete. Our rejection of God has allowed us to come under severe circumstances that will get worse. America has rejected the truth of God.

We have been prepared to receive a woman president, even if she gets it under less then honorable means. The other day I had another dream, and I was sick for about 4 days. Whatever I could have imagined being bad in the dream mentioned in the above paragraph was worse in this dream. I promptly told a very few Christian friends. I have not felt just right since. Something has been different ever since.

The RFK is prophetic. The Lord is trying to prepare us for what will happen to Obama. Students will call this Clinton remark a Fruedian slip. My best opinion is this...Obama will not be in office too long before he will be executed. I have already told my Christian friends, my husband, my son, mom and brothers. If he chooses her to be his VP I am postive this will happen. She is deep within conspiracy... . The evil is so deep that I truly did not know it could exist so deeply. With her assistance the NWO will be able to proceed ahead with no restraints. I believe at some point under her watch we will be bombed by the other nations. God has shown me the bombs coming in as far as West Virginia.

God also has shown me there will be terrorist attacks of a chemical nature, and many beheadings. I am not sure of the sequential order God has given, only that they will surely come to pass because this nation has not repented. I have seen helicopters firing on individuals, people being rounded up and taken prisoners in basements in abandoned buildings.

Governments the world over, because food supply will be at a critical level, will force people to work. A severe persecution of the saints will come to the land and I heard pestilence and plagues will increase. The magnetic field will get messed up and the scientist will be baffled at how fast things will fall apart. At some point after this a tsunami will come and wipe out the east coast. It will come in as far as West Virgina. Jesus' heart will be broken because He never wanted these things to happen...because the nations rejected Him He had to give them a world without Him. The Lord allowed me to see the handheld device that will be able to insert the chip under the skin. It is very mobile. This looked like it would happen immediately after we are bombed by the nations. Very soon there will be an outpouring of healings, and a very wonderful reception of Jesus as their Savior. There very well could be a release of finances for Christians to prepare places of refuge and food for the hard and difficult times coming. He allowed me to see men during the persecution who will be angry because they were told the pre-trib rapture would take place before anything bad happens. They never prepared for difficult times they were experiencing, and this bothered them that they never prepared places for their families. A friend told me of a dream of ministers being hanged because they taught the pre-trib rapture and congregants hanged them for not preparing them for the terror that had come upon them. The Chinese did this to their ministers in the 40's, they were taught the pre-trib rapture would come before anything bad would happen at all. Overnight they were overcome and they congregated at the churches and beat their ministers to bloody messes.

Children will go thru a very difficult time as they are now with sodomy and violations of every sort. The White House and our policy makers will be involved in this as it will herald the era of principalities and powers to go thru gates, the more children sacrificed to those principalities, the more they expect to be sacrificed. The anit-Christ will possibly be a homosexual and possibly a sodomizer of children. Children will be used as sacrifices to his god. It is estimated that today 1 in 4 children are sexually abused in one form or another. It will be 3 out of 4. History repeats itself because people never learn from it.

[jleshae]

I beg people to really study Obama before you throw your support to him. This is an email I received about Obama's family and heritage.


We are living and working
> in Kenya for almost twelve years now and know his family (tribe) well.
> They are the ones who were behind the recent Presidential election chaos
> here. Thousands of people have been displaced by election violence(over
> 350,000) and I don't know the last count of the dead.Obama under
> 'friends of Obama' gave almost a million dollars to the opposition
> campaign who just happened to be his cousin, Raila Odinga, who is a
> socialist trained in east germany . He has been trying to bring Kenya
> down for years and the last president threw him in prison for trying to
> subvert this country! December 27th elections brought cries from ODM
> (Odinga Camp) of rigged election. Obama and Raila speak daily.As we
> watch Obama rise in the US we are sure that whatever happens, he will
> use the same tactic,cyring rigged election if he doesn't win and
> possibly cause a race war in America .
> What we would like you to know is what the american press has been
> keeping a dirty little secret. Obama IS a muslim and he IS a racist and
> this is a fullfilllment of the 911 threat that was just the beginning.
> Jihad is the only true muslim way. We have been working with them for 20
> years this july! He is not an american as we know it. Please encourage
> your friends and associates not to be taken in by those that are
> promoting him. It is world wide jihad.All our friends in Europe are very
> disturbed by the mulsim infiltration into their countries. By the way.
> His true name is Barak Hussein Muhammed Obama. Won't that sound sweet to
> our enemies as they swear him in on the Koran!
> God Bless you.
> Pray for us here in Kenya . We are still fighting for our nation to
> withstand the same kind of assult that every nation, including America ,
> is fighting. Takeover from the outside to fit the new world order. As
> believers, this means we will be the first targets. Here in Kenya , not
> one mosque was burned down, but hundreds of churches were burned down,
> some with people in them, burned alive.
> Jesus Christ is our peace but the new world order of Globalism has
> infiltrated the church and confused believers into thinking that they
> can compromise and survive. It won't be so.

[Golanv]

Please be aware of all the totally false e-mails circulating about Obama now. I have seen several, some much worse than this and they have all been debunked. I just talked with a Minister friend & her Lightworker husband last week. The Lightworker has had many of the same dreams I have had. One of them is that Obama is the right one to lead this country now. I firmly believe this and I am well aware of the false attacks. I used to work in public policy. Snopes is your friend. Here is the debunking of the e-mail you received. If you get others, you can probably find them here too. I've had several dreams on the personal level come true since I dreamed this and Obama is the one with the nomination now. I trust in my dreams. They've never steered me wrong yet & I am 53 years old now, having them since I was a child. I will happily vote for Obama over McSame.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/kenya.asp