India get's nuked on February 04, 2008

[messenger]

rmahil, I'm sorry because I just sent you a reply before this one came in. Just in case the last reply didn't explain "why" I felt attacked by you, let me tell you that this newer posting certainly says a lot about you and how we both "read" each other wrong.

First off, I could never hate you! Or anyone else for that matter. The one and only God I believe in does not give me favor to "hate" anyone. I have no enemies and proud of this fact. I couldn't "dislike" you even if we had/have different perspectives. Not even if we stand on different boarders. Yes you are human .... and so am I. This will be our fault till our day is done. We are ALL different in this world but if we were smart, we should all love one another and embrace each person's differences. My husband and I have had many children of our own, for example. Each one is very different then the other! But I could never wish them to be exactly alike, and would NEVER want them to be. Each one has a gift of their own and worth giving if I'm open to see it and receive it. Each one also has their negatives too tho. But we celebrate the positive differences BUT still love each and everyone the way they ARE. I wouldn't want to change them any more then you! You are who you are and in God's eyes you have tremendous meaning!

I'm not in any political party, more then I have to deal with them to help the poor and give my life's work to Community Volunteering. I'm not rich nor do I get paid for the many jobs I do. IN a few short years, my husband and i will need to retire. He is of an age past working, yet he continues because God has chosen for him to. We pay what small bills we have, and no credit cards or outstanding monies owed except our house and we give the excess of monies to those who don't have it themselves. Our belief in God has brought us many rewards, and one is the fact that in a changing world, God has afforded my husband a job that pays VERY well, when many other folks have no job at all. For these reason, we have all faith in God and his promises that we don't have one penny saved in the bank for retirement ... and we are not afraid. We will see what is what when we get there. All of this should NOT have been said here or any where else so other people don't think I'm looking for a pat on the back nor thinking I'm better then them .... because I"m NOT. Not by far! I'm just a human who knows God and does what is in favor with Him. I don't always follow as well as I should, and yes I make mistakes too. But I'm just human!

I do not judge anyone by ANY measure! Not color, looks, politics, religion, style, appearance, or any other thing that some people do. In our house we will love the Lord God and we love all people! It is NOT our job to judge another human being! We are always putting ourselves below all others as our God said we ought to. Daily I struggle to always remain humble before our God.

I pray for India and its neighbors too. I pray for all the Nations! I wouldn't be a believer of God if I was near sighted to not see He is the creator of all Nations. "WE" all are under God. I have many friends in India and within my own country ... I respect them and love them and see no difference ... we are all humans first with feelings.

[Jennings]

Andrew, a nice name which I suspect belies your nationality.

Those like yourself who are devoutly religious keep predicting either world catastrophy or the world's end the latter which never happens and the former always appears to be based on the current political climate to which anyone could reasonably predict or anticipate. Owing to your deeply profound religious beliefs and your belief too in angels and God and being the chosen few you seem unable to appreciate that you create the dreams you have because of your beliefs rather than in spite of them. You all seem quite alien to any other consideration resulting in the converted speaking to and supporting the converted; a kind of incestuous dialogue.

From the current knowledge of world events there is unlikely to be a third world war and no other country is likely to attack the US (except in the form of terrorism). The US possesses the greatest and most advanced arsenal the world has known and it would be folly for any other nation to attack it in open warfare. Today's terrorism, which is not against the US but rather against Western civilisation, may have a justifiable cause for existing and one of the best investigative journalist on this topic is the Australian, John Pilger, whose books are worthy of reading. It appears that the previous Prime Minister of the UK, Tony Blair, went to war in Iraq because of his religious beliefs and now he has gone the West is trying to sweep-up the mess he created. It seems only to be the religious who are hell-bent on war and destruction and not nations per se.

Two other moot points for consideration: the world is reckoned to be around 15 billion years old and we humans are only a punctuation mark in its history; in the development of the human race we seem to have advanced beyond our original animal genesis and it seems that we are continuing to do so but for what purpose? The paradox is that in all that succeeds lies the seeds of its destruction so if there is a God responsible for our creation why then would he (or whoever it is) wish to destroy (like a infant child) that which he created? It sounds like folly; I feel certain that if he existed (outside of the minds of man) that he would be wiser and more compassionate.

How do you feel about this viewpoint Andrew? Does it in anyway cause you to be upset?

[messenger]

Originally Posted by Jennings

Andrew, a nice name which I suspect belies your nationality.

Those like yourself who are devoutly religious keep predicting either world catastrophy or the world's end the latter which never happens and the former always appears to be based on the current political climate to which anyone could reasonably predict or anticipate. Owing to your deeply profound religious beliefs and your belief too in angels and God and being the chosen few you seem unable to appreciate that you create the dreams you have because of your beliefs rather than in spite of them. You all seem quite alien to any other consideration resulting in the converted speaking to and supporting the converted; a kind of incestuous dialogue.

From the current knowledge of world events there is unlikely to be a third world war and no other country is likely to attack the US (except in the form of terrorism). The US possesses the greatest and most advanced arsenal the world has known and it would be folly for any other nation to attack it in open warfare. Today's terrorism, which is not against the US but rather against Western civilisation, may have a justifiable cause for existing and one of the best investigative journalist on this topic is the Australian, John Pilger, whose books are worthy of reading. It appears that the previous Prime Minister of the UK, Tony Blair, went to war in Iraq because of his religious beliefs and now he has gone the West is trying to sweep-up the mess he created. It seems only to be the religious who are hell-bent on war and destruction and not nations per se.

Two other moot points for consideration: the world is reckoned to be around 15 billion years old and we humans are only a punctuation mark in its history; in the development of the human race we seem to have advanced beyond our original animal genesis and it seems that we are continuing to do so but for what purpose? The paradox is that in all that succeeds lies the seeds of its destruction so if there is a God responsible for our creation why then would he (or whoever it is) wish to destroy (like a infant child) that which he created? It sounds like folly; I feel certain that if he existed (outside of the minds of man) that he would be wiser and more compassionate.

How do you feel about this viewpoint Andrew? Does it in anyway cause you to be upset?

No, not at all am I up-set Mr. Jennings but you sure must be because you proved my point of what a careless person, self-centered idiot you must really be! My name isn't Andrew nor does it speak of what Country I live in, nor the boarder I stand on. You had such careless regard for what you were speaking about, that you didn't even pause long enough before trying to sound all educated and intelligent to check your facts! But I of all people don't need to point this fact out to you as there have been far better then me before I got here who also had to "copy" you the original post. Don't worry, I won't even bother with waisting your time Sir ... do your own homework.

And thank you for "trying" to educate me for free, but sorry, I already have an excellent education far above what meets your eye. Get a job and life and perhaps you won't have extra time to post all that you do.

For your question "....so if there is a God responsible for our creation why then would he (or whoever it is) wish to destroy (like a infant child) that which he created?", try reading something for the answers. Additionally, I'm sorry but your spelling is incorrect - it is catastrophe.

[Jennings]

My sincerest apologies Messenger, I thought I was addressing the submission to the initiator of the thread, Andrew Ian Murphy, so possibly I must have made a faux pas somewhere which lead you to misread to whom it was addressed. Thank you once more for havng the decency to correct my appalling spelling. It is manifestly one of those features, to which you will be fully aware, that is seldom encountered on public forums.

[Andrew Ian Murphy]

I want to add one more thing here...I am of the opinoin that these attacks will be "terrorist" attacks...and for a number of reasons, I am coming to the conclusion that these attacks may be set up by the US...you know, in order to get a rise out of India, and so that the Indians will be tricked into joining the US and attack the Middle east...and everyone else.

I am concerned for a number of reasons...like the cable cuts in the middle east.

Now bear in mind, that what I am saying only applies if this is a terrorist attack...which India will naturally blame Pakistan for...but one the US could just as easily, or even much more so perform.

I just wanted to go on record with this...

I am very vocal politically...and over the years it has gotten me into some impressive jams...but one thing I had never really considered was that the US would have anyone who would be spying on me that would pay attention to this warning I was laying out...but it seems that may not be so. I had wanted to travel to India and make a much more public display there of my warning...even though they would assume that I was a freak or insane, many would listen, and some might take whatever actions they could, and thus, my little effort could save countless lives. I considered it my responsibility, and I had been planning it since July...but I have had some very weird experiences...including financial situations that involve other people who started talking paranoia and conspiracy things, and who never knew anything about my past problems...

I have also been warned that travel to India now would "Not be a good idea".

I am amazed.

Could anyone work for any agency or body of men who would plot such sinister an action? I mean aside from fanatics who are fighting a war...would an American guy from Minnesota, who worked for the CIA actually be willing to participate in the killing of millions of people?

It's hard to fathom...but I think it might be so.

There is one other thing possible...that such attacks will be in response to a US attack on Iran...and that maybe this is why the undersea cables have been cut.

OK, Rant off...

And right now it's 4pm PST February 2, meaning that in India it's 4 am February 3. So within 24 hours this is expected to come to pass...though we may not hear about it for an additional 12 hours or so.

Wow...

Oh well, I guess we all die in this life anyway...you know they say that no one is getting out alive. It just seems so ugly.

[Andrew Ian Murphy]

Originally Posted by Jennings

Andrew, a nice name which I suspect belies your nationality.

Those like yourself who are devoutly religious keep predicting either world catastrophy or the world's end the latter which never happens and the former always appears to be based on the current political climate to which anyone could reasonably predict or anticipate. Owing to your deeply profound religious beliefs and your belief too in angels and God and being the chosen few you seem unable to appreciate that you create the dreams you have because of your beliefs rather than in spite of them. You all seem quite alien to any other consideration resulting in the converted speaking to and supporting the converted; a kind of incestuous dialogue.

From the current knowledge of world events there is unlikely to be a third world war and no other country is likely to attack the US (except in the form of terrorism). The US possesses the greatest and most advanced arsenal the world has known and it would be folly for any other nation to attack it in open warfare. Today's terrorism, which is not against the US but rather against Western civilisation, may have a justifiable cause for existing and one of the best investigative journalist on this topic is the Australian, John Pilger, whose books are worthy of reading. It appears that the previous Prime Minister of the UK, Tony Blair, went to war in Iraq because of his religious beliefs and now he has gone the West is trying to sweep-up the mess he created. It seems only to be the religious who are hell-bent on war and destruction and not nations per se.

Two other moot points for consideration: the world is reckoned to be around 15 billion years old and we humans are only a punctuation mark in its history; in the development of the human race we seem to have advanced beyond our original animal genesis and it seems that we are continuing to do so but for what purpose? The paradox is that in all that succeeds lies the seeds of its destruction so if there is a God responsible for our creation why then would he (or whoever it is) wish to destroy (like a infant child) that which he created? It sounds like folly; I feel certain that if he existed (outside of the minds of man) that he would be wiser and more compassionate.

How do you feel about this viewpoint Andrew? Does it in anyway cause you to be upset?

Well, actually you know it's kind of funny because I only saw page one until I couldn't seem to post my last reply...so I missed the little spat everyone seemed to be having...it was actually kind of exciting to read...but somehow I think this particular forum is far too polite to incite anything more...however...I actually am not very religious...I believe in somethings which I don't think it fully wise to pusue...but, I think that what the point is here is that I had a dream which has begun to come true...so terrible that I shot it out to the world.

If you guys got wind of what I really think about things supernatural and otherworldly and stuff like that, you would no doubt think I was mad...but that is another discussion.

Oh, there is one thing I do want to address...it's the idea of Gods plan...actually as I understand Christian scripture, This life is basically a testing ground for the purity of the human soul...there is no plan per say...except to draw out situations in which we are confronted by what really lies in our hearts...and in this way, when the man who claims to be evil gives his life to save others...it shows something more deeper, and more of pure honesty...same goes for many who claim to be good, when they in reality are not...but the whole cornerstone was Freewill...which I believe Satan derided in humans...and this was the basis of the original dispute was it not?

Anyway, I was allways facinated by the deeper issues presented in thelogy rather than what we hear more often.

Prophecy can be changed though...this I am certain of. And I for sure would rather have nothing to do with risking my own life...or my comfort...I mean, you know, who desires to have difficult experiences? The thing is, I have been to India, and they are really very nice people. I worry about them...it's really pathetic...the way of life there is very old...though the country is developing, the basic ideas of the people are the same as allways, and I thought the Indians were really decent, mentally clean and just plain good people. There are a lot of kids there, and they take the things of daily life to be very importan you know, and when I looked at them, I thought to myself, how can they focus on such simple things with such steadfastness...like the proper way of dressing and how the children will wear their tilacs often in such proper form, it was so deep, I was really affected by seeing that.

You see, it is our duty to do whatever we possibly can...

I could have done so much more too.

I'm really gonna feel terrible if this thing happens. I should have found my way to India and stood on the steps of the parliment with a bullhorn and screamed like a madman.

[idgy]

Andrew,
You sound like a really good person. I think this is the first prophecy thread I have read where the dreamer feels compassion towards the people in their vision. AT LAST, there is some compassion out there. I admire your desire to stop these visions from happening, and your belief that they are not inevitable.

Also you are right about not only the US, but most governments. Did you know that more people were killed by their own governments in the 20th Century than by outside forces?

Good luck to you.

[rocketsquirrel]

Andrew Ian Murphy,
I'm glad India didn't suffer an attack yesterday. That doesn't mean that your dream isn't still prophetic. Perhaps the tough talk by India's President is present but secret right now. Have you since speculated what else this dream could be about just based on what you have experienced...?

[Andrew Ian Murphy]

Originally Posted by rocketsquirrel

Andrew Ian Murphy,
I'm glad India didn't suffer an attack yesterday. That doesn't mean that your dream isn't still prophetic. Perhaps the tough talk by India's President is present but secret right now. Have you since speculated what else this dream could be about just based on what you have experienced...?

The meaning in the dream came form the fact that the dream showed the PM before he was elected. In the Dream he was the PM.

So when he was elected...I was shocked.

I also want to add one point...the date I put up was tentative, and it was based upon the due date of the birth of a child...the child is not yet born adn is now almost two days overdue. My prediction doesn't get cancelled until the baby is born. He's late. I will be seeing my ex-wife today and I will get an update...

Anyway, if the baby is born and nothing happens, I will hang up everything and pretend the world is normal after all.

[Superstar]

Why is it that all PROPHETS OF DOOM here on this board like Andrew and Rocketsquirrel are targeting India for their Doomsday prophecies? First Rocketsquirrel predicts a massive earthquake in India (which doesn't happen) and then Andrew predicts that India is getting nuked (which doesn't happen either).

I will tell you the psychology behind such dreams. The Westerners are consciously or sub-consciously envious of India's rise as an Economic Superpower. While their own economies are plagued by an ongoing recession, India is posting 9% growth in GDP annually. This is making them nervous. This is making them wish ill upon India. Consciously or subconsciously. These dreams are nothing but projections of your state of mind.

NOTHING WILL HAPPEN TO INDIA. MARK MY WORDS. ALL YOUR PROPHECIES OF DOOM ARE GOING TO FALL FLAT ON THEIR FACE AND WILL BOOMERANG ON YOU.

Cheers!