Symbolism of Christianity

[rmahil]

RocketSquirrel,

You are way off topic on my thread!!!
If you are part of the descendants of Julius Caesar, just say so!

You never answered my questions! In fact, stay off of all my post, Mr Rude~~~

[rocketsquirrel]

I was attempting to answer Nemo's question...which of course led to another topic. I was innocently trying to support your post by pointing out that your dream made a good point, that there are hypocrites in religon, and some use it for manipulative purposes, and in my second post...I was only answering a question.

I love you...and like your posts...I am sorry if that atitude is rude...


good bye

[nemo]

Originally Posted by rocketsquirrel

I am not accusing you of being in league with the anti-christ...however, one world gov't is the goal of the anti-christ...the anti-christ motto is no borders, no flags, screw GOD's law which sounds a lot like your signature. I am saying you have to be careful. Read the link. In fact, the Club of Rome, the Bilderburg Group all conspire to create one world gov't so wealth and power can be concertrated in the hands of only a few people. These elite group intend to create their power by eliminating order, they believe by creating enough chaos, the world will turn to these super rich greedy individuals for salvation, and this is an enternally fatal error. This means only a small group of people will control who gets access to drink clean water, and who has rights and who doesn't...who lives and who dies. This also requires a one world currency...or an end to it. This will require everyone to accept a mark, and no one will be able to buy or sell without it. This is what you are advocating by a global gov't...all consitutional law must be made null and void and all the rights therein...by advocating the end of all soverignity of the nations you play into their hands, and get caught in the illusions by the super wealthy who are determine to create a one world gov't to becomes gods on earth...but don't be decieved...only one Kingdom exists where there is perfect justice, freedom, and harmony...its the Kingdom of GOD. Jesus will return the earth and rule with an iron sceptor. He will judge the nations, and of His Kingdom there will be no end ...but only after Satan is allowed to decieve people into believing in a one world gov't will solve all their problems so Satan can set up his throne on earth through the anti-chirst as Satan tries to ursurp the authority of Christ...

Daniel 2:41 44 "In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever."


Rev 21:1:
1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.
8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

ok, that is somethingwith bases, but now listen-read-mine : what if the church, (you have to notice that i am talking for churchies and not for chriest)knew that all this would happened and so created this books so that it would have the power to control us. i always thought that Chriest was the one who was telling that people are all equal and we must not be separeted by races. what if there is no heaven and hell? i mean, god is the creator of everything so the creator of the satan, what if hell is only the bad feelings we have when we do something wrong and paradise is the feeling of love. are there any flags in paradise?no, you will say that also in hell there are no flags. but think, isn't the flag one of the things that caused wars?so why sould i respect it? nazi are also talking about one only union. i do not remember where but i have read that the antichriest will come from the politic world. why chriest did never talk about the final day?he just said that that day we all will be judged. all the other things we know them by some books which were picked by some other holy books. and one question, was Chriest the first koumounism?(i did this question to the teacher who do us Christian morality in school and she started scolding at me)

[rocketsquirrel]

Nemo,
When I was a child I bled to death in the emergency room. No one could save me because the hospital I was in ran out of blood...I was literally dead for over 30 minutes...the doctor called the coroner to come get me...I can attest that I have seen Heaven and Hell and can tell you they exist because I've experienced death...GOD sent me back and ressurected me so I was fully healed...but I can tell you you make a good point...I know for instance there are trends in Christians beliefs that are NOT Biblical at all...I call them faith fads...

For example, Christians have had the idea that there are no ghosts..they are all demons...this is not Biblical at all...in fact, Samuel, the high priest, appeared to King Saul as a ghost. The Bible states that this present world is part of Hell, and it is...so souls of Hell can dwell among and appear to us...they also forget that if there are no ghosts in the sense of a soul of a human wandering the earth why would the earth, sea, and Hell need to give up their dead to be judged? Some added their own scripture saying it wasn't really Samuel comming up as ghost but a demon mimicking him...now if that was true the Bible would say it, it doesn't. What it does say that those who were righteous who died before Christ came went to Hell..but not one of suffering, one of seperation from GOD. Jesus's death and ressurection released these righteous souls from Hell in to Heaven. Also, if they all went straight to Heaven or straight to a far away Hell then there would be no need for Hell or Earth or Sea to give up the dead to be judged. in the Great White Throne Judgement at the end of the age..so that means there are some spirits that are not demons wandering the earth that will only later be called before GOD for final judgement. Ultimately, scripture is the final world. I'm sure people try to change it around but...scriptures says those people who try to add or take away from scripture GOD will add to them the punishments described in scripture...

[rocketsquirrel]

Nemo...another faith fad is the idea that all Chirstians will be rescued from persecution from the anti-chirst...if that is true, why in Revelation are there souls of dead Christians crying out to GOD to avenge their deaths because they were killed by the anti-christ? Clearly, the idea we will be whisked out of here at the first sign of trouble is a fantasy.

[nemo]

Originally Posted by rocketsquirrel

Nemo...another faith fad is the idea that all Chirstians will be rescued from persecution from the anti-chirst...if that is true, why in Revelation are there souls of dead Christians crying out to GOD to avenge their deaths because they were killed by the anti-christ? Clearly, the idea we will be whisked out of here at the first sign of trouble is a fantasy.

when i was 3 months old for a reason my heart stopped bitting for almost 4 second and then suddenly started again. when i was 7 months old my mom had left me in the table and i fall down to the ground , i wasn't breathing for 3 minutes.(all these things i've been told my grandmother) so i died twise. why i didn't see heaven or hell? or God is waiting for the third time which will be my lucky one?

[rocketsquirrel]

Very simple, if your heart only stopped beating for a few seconds and it started again, you didn't die. That is hardly enough time to complete the entire dying process...death is a completely shut down of all organs, not just the heart...there is a slow, orderly process, also, some drugs used in treatment, can cause memory loss so you don't remember the experience...or you experienced memory loss for some other reason..since there was no medical intervention for me, as it was not possible, and all my organs failed and I was completely dead in every sense of the word for over 30 minutes without a drop of blood left inside of me...drug free...this permitted me to experience the full extent of death...now GOD sent proof to my doctors that it was Him who healed me and set me back...I suddenly sat up on the table, color came back to my face, I had no sign of blood loss. I came back with knowledge...I told the doctor and my parents (I was 3 years old at the time) that my body is made up of indvidual cells, and I explained to my doctor and parents how celluar regeneration works...now that is something for a 3 year told talk about, let alone understand, but I woke with the knowledge, because GOD showed me how I was ressurected.

[nemo]

Originally Posted by rocketsquirrel

Very simple, if your heart only stopped beating for a few seconds and it started again, you didn't die. That is hardly enough time to complete the entire dying process...death is a completely shut down of all organs, not just the heart...there is a slow, orderly process, also, some drugs used in treatment, can cause memory loss so you don't remember the experience...or you experienced memory loss for some other reason..since there was no medical intervention for me, as it was not possible, and all my organs failed and I was completely dead in every sense of the word for over 30 minutes without a drop of blood left inside of me...drug free...this permitted me to experience the full extent of death...now GOD sent proof to my doctors that it was Him who healed me and set me back...I suddenly sat up on the table, color came back to my face, I had no sign of blood loss. I came back with knowledge...I told the doctor and my parents (I was 3 years old at the time) that my body is made up of indvidual cells, and I explained to my doctor and parents how celluar regeneration works...now that is something for a 3 year told talk about, let alone understand, but I woke with the knowledge, because GOD showed me how I was ressurected.

have you heard of plato's philosofy?the soul is eternal and when you die your soul is moving to another body and transfers all the expirience that the passed away body had? for me, i see heaven everytime i am looking at my sisters eyes and hell everytime i see people dying, children prostitytion,drogs.
Am i right?

[rocketsquirrel]

When I died, I didn't experience the soul being transfered to another body but rather, I left my body, to me the body was like a machine that the soul occupied...I remembered what my body went through, and realized the pain I had experienced was gone. The best way I can describe is that my soul was light and returned to the Light (GOD) who made it. My imagination was gone.

When I was shown Hell, people went from suffering to even more suffering...the worst part is that these souls had no hope...since imagination is taken away people couldn't even imagine an escape...the hopelessness was overwhelming, there was no light, it was complete seperation from GOD so complete..it was endless misery...endless slavery...it was heart wrenching.
Demons were really torturing people...

I am so grateful Jesus put the sins of humankind on Himself and paid for them with His life, and then ressurrected, so that there is way now to not be seperated from GOD but be in the presence of GOD in spirit in this life, and in His Light in the next.

Anyway, need to wrap up this topic because if we don't we will go on and on...and it won't be related to the orginal post
so I will transition to another topic, MAJOR HURRICANE TO DEVESTATE INDIA? I posted a dream there I had back in August and I learned today there is a big hurricane in the Indian Ocean, I hope the dream does not come true...so I'm leaving this post...and watching the other one..

[nemo]

i am going to sleep now goodnight, sweet dreams....................