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Old 05-17-2009, 06:08 PM
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Hello everyone, I am new to this forum.
Have read through a few topics with great interest, but still can not find what I am looking for.
Since a very early age I have been able to control dreams, and had many strange experiences within them.
I have talked clearly to many people who have been in my life, but are now no longer with us.
I have never asked for this kind of help before, and almost nobody knows what I can do.
I need to know what you would do if you were in total control of your dreams.
Would you abuse your gift, and have self indulgent dreams?
Would you contact dead relatives, or use your gift to increase your wealth?
I simply can not find a reason to continue with lucid dreaming.
This is not a question I am asking others, but rather myself. I can no longer find purpose in my dreaming.
I seem to have come to a point where it all seems a waste of time.
What good reason can I tell myself, to continue with the lucid dreaming.

Thanks in advance for any replies, Phil
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Old 05-24-2009, 01:50 PM
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Lucid dreaming is a gift and should be treated as such since many do not have the capabilities. If I could explore the world or anything I want to I would use lucid dreaming as a way to gain knowledge to help others. I read a lot of Robert Moss who is an incredible writer, shaman, and lucid dreamer. He said he started lucid dreaming after a reoccurring childhood illness. He uses his dreams to help others and makes an excellent living doing so. Here is his blog if you are interested:

The Robert Moss BLOG

If it is a gift you are no longer interested in, then the decision is really up to you. Take a break and really think about it or maybe ask your dreams what you should do next.

Good Luck.
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Old 05-24-2009, 03:00 PM
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Hiya!

Sounds like you came into this life with a certain level of awareness/power... and perhaps the experiment for you is/was to see how you'd handle it, and explore just what to do with it. For myself, I gave up lucid dreaming almost as soon as I started with it, because I could feel a certain truth about it all that's difficult to put to words. It wasn't the playground that was too small, it was my understanding of myself, life and the purpose of existence that was too small yet to get much from controlling the playground/dreamscape. Far more interesting was to let go and see if life/soul/essence had anything to share with ME, that I DIDN'T know and COULDN'T control! That's where the real challenge was, as far as I was concerned.

Humanity lives from a limited human mind, a small perspective on life and the totality/purpose of existence. Yet even though perceiving life from a small point in the midst of a far vaster whole, a good lot of Creation is available to us human beings to "do with as we will". There is no judgement for whatever we choose to create for ourselves. None whatsoever. The whole point of our existence is for US to explore life by our own choice, in order to expand, grow and ultimately find fulfillment. How we go about that is up to us.

However... always in the offing is the opportunity to let go control or the attempt to "navigate our own ship from down here" and open to the unknown. There is so much more than we currently command. To do so is risking, of course, our sense of safety, our confident identity, our stable sense of life. The risk... is why so few choose to truly let go and trust life to "crack us open" according to an inherent intelligence far grander than our own.

No matter how well we think we understand "all of it", there is always more to open to, love, discover, become at the whim of, shake in the face of, etc. The minute we believe that's no longer true... we're on the cusp of major change, about to be shaken to the core.

So the thought I had was that perhaps this is where you are. At the threshold of the new, needing to perhaps align with the choice to let go control and allow vulnerability, seeming chaos and the scattered, scrambling, fumbling of a newbie to be the order of the day for yourself, for a while. See where it takes you. See what you've been missing.

I have a poem that speaks to this that I thought I'd share here...

Trust and Surrender

Oh! But for the shadows
cast by self-made fears…
The despair borne
of self-made limitations…

This universe bursts
with unending potential!
Any conception takes form if permitted,
if unhindered,
by the heart of its very creator.

Most cannot conceive
beyond previously set borders;
Their minds and spirits so ingrained
with outdated notions of What Is.

There is so much more
to see and feel and know…


Shed Light
on your self-perceived darkness
by opening your heart
to the unbounded, all-consuming Love
that gave birth to your own existence.

Chance letting go of all self-control.
Give yourself over
to the whim and fancy
of a single, unfettered moment.

Dive into the unknown
with Carefreeness and Freedom!
And feel the life-sustaining support
of Love’s Truth, warm and tender…

… All life is eternal
Trust and Surrender

If none of this feels to you to be applicable, of course, toss.

Blessings!
Sowelu
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