The Solar Eclipse on July 22nd - a bad omen?

[sarahsimagination]

I don't know if anyone heard but, the news media is freaking out about a solar eclipse thats expected to happen this Wednesday on July 22nd. Apparently earths moon will stand between the earth and the sun and as a result, completely blocking the sun out. A lot of people with spiritual and religious backgrounds are saying that its a bad omen that will bring violence and turmoil across the world.

What do you think about this? I think it's just a natural event and I'm not really worried about the earth in general but, how people will react and sometimes people can get out of control with paranoia and thats what makes something like this dangerous.

Heres some sites I found the news on :

Solar eclipse pits superstition against science - Yahoo! News

Varied Predications Made About Wednesday’s Solar Eclipse - Space News - redOrbit

What I found to be interesting is India's spiritual point of view on the solar eclipse. In Hindu mythology there are two demons that make food and water toxic during the eclipse. I searched the internet and came upon something that could support this mythology as a fact. "The Great Blob of Alaska" there is a report of a great black blob of black toxic algae floating from Alaska and closer towards the United States. Right now commercial fishermen are not allowed to fish near the algae because this particular type of algae is very toxic and kills crustaceans and fish. This could be an early sign of what is yet to come or it could just be an effect of global warming.

Heres the site info on the algae found in Alaska: Alaska Blob: What Is the Arctic Ocean Mystery? - TIME

why would this solar eclipse be any different over the other solar eclipses that have happened over billions of years? In the Hindu spiritual point of view, this particular eclipse may cause turmoil and chaos on earth. I am not very familiar with the Hindu spiritual point of view on the solar eclipse but, I have found evidence that some of the mythology could be fact. To support my opinion that the mythology could be fact I bring up the article found on cnn.com about the black toxic algae found in Alaska that is killing fish and crustaceans therefore, making food not edible. This blob of black toxic algae is moving closer to other bordering states and will continue to cause fish and crustaceans to be not edible. Within a matter of 2 days which lands on the exact day of the solar eclipse, this blob of algae will have already spread across the bordering states and if anyone attempted to eat fish or crustaceans from the area that the toxic algae contaminated, those people would become ill

[sarahsimagination]

Heres a few sites to search if the URLs don't work

yahoo.com
redorbit.com
straitstimes.com

[IrisRavenstar]

Hi Sarah,

I think a lot of superstition was formed about eclipses before science understood what causes them! Sometimes, it's hard to get rid of those old superstitions. It was scary, I'm sure, to have the sun seemingly disappear in the middle of the day, with no sensible explanation. Thus, the invention of demons to blame for it! I'm not worried about the eclipse at all. I suspect some people may forget how to view an eclipse properly and hurt their eyes, but I doubt it will actually cause much else to happen!

That algae, on the other hand, is potentially disturbing. Algae in the water is generally green or red or reddish brown, that I've seen. Not black and being confused with oil spills as this batch appears. It could be a serious sign of an imbalance in the oceans there, for sure, and that is more likely caused by human waste than by demons! We have got to figure out more and better ways to change what we're doing to the environment, for sure.

Well, too tired to do dreams tonight, and it's time to get to bed! See you all tomorrow!

[karmicresponse]

Dear Sarah, I have made mention of this situation in one or two posts a couple of weeks ago. Statiscally speaking the stresses on a given landmass with a solar eclipse on one day followed by a lunar eclipse some 12 to 24 hours later will put some geophysical stresses on a land mass way beyond normal proportions. When eclipses are known to contribute to earthquakes such as it did in Turkey some 10 years ago two conditions have to be met. The eclipse has to be in a period when the moon is in perigee with the earth (closest to) at the time of the eclipse as it will be on July 21, 2009. Secondly eclipses cover only a portion of the earth maybe 1/5 to 1/3rd of the earths landmass. This paticular lunar eclipse will be centered over China Japan and S.E. Asia. If there is any reaction, and I do expect there will be , that reaction will be in that region in the period July 21, July 22, 2009. There is a prediction by an oriental prophet saying the 3 gorges dam in China will break soon, so that could be part of it. There were actually 3 eclipses this month July 7th over west coast of USA and Hawaii and there was no reaction to that. There will be a third eclipse over the mid east at either the end of July or early august. However the moon was not in perigee with either of these.

[mwyna]

It's true the moon, sun etc affect our planet. That is without a doubt. As for the solar eclipse being a bad omen, I think it will be easy to see it as that if that's what you believe. And I'm not one to judge if that belief is right or wrong. It is however also a fact that solar eclipses have been used as signs of the times for hundreds and probably thousands of years. I believe it is important to find a way to come to peace with the world come what may. It is no good to live in fear. On that note, I will not be holding my breath in anticipation tomorrow.

[IrisRavenstar]

Originally Posted by mwyna

It's true the moon, sun etc affect our planet. That is without a doubt. As for the solar eclipse being a bad omen, I think it will be easy to see it as that if that's what you believe. And I'm not one to judge if that belief is right or wrong. It is however also a fact that solar eclipses have been used as signs of the times for hundreds and probably thousands of years. I believe it is important to find a way to come to peace with the world come what may. It is no good to live in fear. On that note, I will not be holding my breath in anticipation tomorrow.

Okay, maybe it's the mathematician in me, but the planets all revolve around in set patterns, and that's why we can predict eclipses and where they will be seen and know that this one is supposed to last for six minutes and thirty nine seconds, and various other things about it I'm sure. The very fact that they revolve around in patterns also seems to me to make eclipses a necessary part of the picture. We can't not have eclipses with all these varying orbits, can we?

It's an unusually long eclipse, and the numbers are symbolically interesting, all being multiples of three... Six minutes... 2x3... 39 seconds... 13x3. Oooh, 13, there's that Death card! I can force it, you see, to be a bad omen if I'm inclined to want it to be one, but does that mean it actually IS? It's not like a synchronicity event, which is spontaneous, it's something that was programmed in to happen long ago. I think we have a right and a responsibility to exercise SOUND judgement sometimes! And where something is so measurable now, it seems as if we should apply reason rather than superstition. Reason is what can de-fuse fear most readily.

The lack of sunlight for days on end affects me, but probably not for six minutes and thirty nine seconds in China. Here, we've just moved into at least another week of downpours and thunderstorms. That's not a bad omen; it's just soggy and depressing! Normal July here is sunny, hot and humid. Well, we've got the humidity... it feels as if my carpets got rained on!

[mwyna]

Originally Posted by IrisRavenstar

Okay, maybe it's the mathematician in me, but the planets all revolve around in set patterns, and that's why we can predict eclipses and where they will be seen and know that this one is supposed to last for six minutes and thirty nine seconds, and various other things about it I'm sure. The very fact that they revolve around in patterns also seems to me to make eclipses a necessary part of the picture. We can't not have eclipses with all these varying orbits, can we?

It's an unusually long eclipse, and the numbers are symbolically interesting, all being multiples of three... Six minutes... 2x3... 39 seconds... 13x3. Oooh, 13, there's that Death card! I can force it, you see, to be a bad omen if I'm inclined to want it to be one, but does that mean it actually IS? It's not like a synchronicity event, which is spontaneous, it's something that was programmed in to happen long ago. I think we have a right and a responsibility to exercise SOUND judgement sometimes! And where something is so measurable now, it seems as if we should apply reason rather than superstition. Reason is what can de-fuse fear most readily.

The lack of sunlight for days on end affects me, but probably not for six minutes and thirty nine seconds in China. Here, we've just moved into at least another week of downpours and thunderstorms. That's not a bad omen; it's just soggy and depressing! Normal July here is sunny, hot and humid. Well, we've got the humidity... it feels as if my carpets got rained on!

EXACTLY Iris, excellent post!
We've just received my son's results from his 2nd year at University. He placed 13th in his year. How AMAZING is that? Seriously! But oh noes, 13 is a bad omen. Rubbish.

[Gordon Jerome]

In the astrology I practice I don't use the lunar nodes, so an eclipse is essentially a non-issue. Once a month, however, the moon forms a conjunction with the sun, and the combined forces tend to move a person toward emotional willpower and action in whatever house and sign the conjuction occurs. This as compared to a carefully considered decision with action.

In the case of this eclipse, the moon and sun will be in Cancer wich affects my 7th and 8th house. Thus I would expect to be motivated to make emotional decisions and carry them out in most likely the ending of a relationship. Especially since Cancer is known to be a sign with moodiness, that I can be prone to.

Now, since I know that this is the case, I am able to take my fate into my own hands. I am prepared for perhaps some anger that will make me want to sever a relationship, and that may not be a good idea. And I kind of already know what I can do to prevent that, and so that's what I'll do that day. In fact, the eclipse happens at around 8:30pm for me tonight, in wich case I should be well into my second Jameson and soda while watching Hell's Kitchen. I should be safe.

That's how astrology works for me during this eclipse.

[IrisRavenstar]

Originally Posted by mwyna

EXACTLY Iris, excellent post!
We've just received my son's results from his 2nd year at University. He placed 13th in his year. How AMAZING is that? Seriously! But oh noes, 13 is a bad omen. Rubbish.

Hey, CONGRATULATIONS to your son! That's wonderful!

Thirteens are lucky when corn vendors and bakers give you a baker's dozen, right? It's a freebie!

[sarahsimagination]

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