Pre-9/11 Dreams... anyone else have 'em?

[IrisRavenstar]

IrisRavenstar's Pre-9/11 Dreams & Visions

I've gathered together the ones I've identified as being related to 9/11 in my journal,
which I started on Jan. 31, 2001, and which, synchronistically, has an old photo
of the Eiffel (I Fell?) Tower on the cover with twin golden yellow tulips, which make
me think of the twin towers being related to finances/gold. I don't think my
use of that particular journal at that particular time was accidental,
but rather the true meaningful coincidence of synchronicity.

Also, all during this time period, I was having waking visions of gravestones
with either "IX" or "XI" printed on them. It never occurred to me to consider
that was giving me a date! But it's obvious in hindsight that it was. I just
kept thinking that either I or someone I know was crossing over, dying,
and got scared about that.

February 16: Dream: A man came up to me, my guide I think, and told me to
look toward some city buildings. There were a bunch of helicopters, military
type, and they started to shoot rockets at the buildings and blew a couple of
them up completely. One building looked like the Leaning Tower of Pisa. I
was frightened they would start shooting where we were.

(Notes: I woke up,
and later turned on the news, and found the U.S. was bombing Iraq that day,
though that tower also makes me think this one is related to 9/11 events
as well.)

May 6: Vision: Coming towards me were at least three emergency vehicles side
by side, lights flashing, probably ambulances as I think they were all
white... it was as if every lane was filled with ambulances.

June 7: Dream: Very long and I forgot some. I had lots and lots of money,
and some man was trying to steal it from me. He came along in a donkey cart
and carried a bunch of it away and down a long hallway, where the donkey
started breaking down some walls, demolishing them, making huge holes in
them. The cart was stuffed full of my money. I also had a big satchel or
duffel bag full that I was holding very close as I went into a shop full of
strangers where I felt very protective of it and scared.

(Notes: On Sept.
23, 60 Minutes aired a piece on terrorists, and there was a scene of one of
the terrorists in a donkey cart that was just what I had seen in my dream. I
thought then that the money is the country's money, and what it's costing us
in the wake of these incidents, and also had seen a piece on CNN where the
terrorists may have profited on the stock market by their foreknowledge of
the events.)

July 13: Dream: I was working in a mental hospital, and it was all sort of
jumbled and confusing. My ex-husband was in the dream throughout, and in
fact, it seemed to take place in his house, and his wife actually does work
as a mental health worker, but is currently out of work due to a clinical
depression. I seemed to sometimes be inside "me" and sometimes outside
watching, and I didn't look like me... it could have been his current wife.
I wasn't sure. Anyway, there was a scene with "me" throwing things into
suitcases, but don't remember much about that. Then my ex was driving a
truck around crazy, out of control. He almost ran me down, and drove into
his garage way too fast. Someone else (not sure who) ran ahead of him and
opened another door at the other end of the garage, so that he passed through
into the back yard, where he was still driving all crazy and erratic all over
the yard for a long time. I saw that from an aerial view perspective. Then
he drove back into the garage, and I expected him to come back out my side,
but he didn't. He came to a "dead stop" (and that was the phrase I used in
the dream itself), and the garage dropped down into the earth and out of
sight, with him still inside. It was totally underground.

(Notes: I found
out on August 30 that my ex and his wife were planning to fly to California
from Connecticut for two weeks on Sept.12! So they really were packing the
day of the WTC incident. In real life, there is no rear exit from his
garage, but a large hot tub on an enclosed deck. At the time of the dream, I
thought it was about his health, which it still may also be. He's had heart
disease, diabetes, and strokes for the last six or seven years.)

July 31: Dream: This one was very long and involved, so, of course, I forgot
a lot at the beginning. I KNOW it was interesting too! Anyway, from where I
remember, I was with a tall thin man with dark hair who looked to me like the
actor Pierce Brosnan, and he was waving a scalpel around in the air, and said
he had stabbed his wife in the back with it. He seemed totally unconcerned
about it, as if there wasn't anything to worry about at all. I felt rather
shocked, and said, "You stabbed her in the back?!?!!!" He still looked
unconcerned. He took off down the hill as if there was some emergency, and
another man, with blonde hair, said to me, "He isn't who you think he is." I
sort of shrugged him off, though I was bothered by what he'd said, and
started to follow "Pierce" down the hill, but he had gone so far ahead that
he was out of sight.

I came to this spot where things looked really chaotic, like maybe a
bomb had gone off or something. It looked as if a building had fallen right
into the ground, like the Earth swallowed it whole, and I was standing above
the roof of this building. It had a big jagged hole in the center of the
roof, and I could see through the hole down to the floors below, and there
were too many to count. Each floor had the same jagged hole in it, so I
could keep seeing more and more floors below, and thought it must have been a
skyscraper. Everything looked broken and chaotic. The only way to go after
"Pierce" was to cross this building, but I decided it was too dangerous, and
that I didn't have the equipment or skills to make it safely, besides which,
I was still bothered by what the blonde man had said about Pierce not being
who I thought he was. I didn't want to risk falling into that seemingly
bottomless hole. So, I turned back and started walking back up the hill.

(Notes: the scalpel could, in hindsight, have been a boxcutter, and the
terrorists certainly do seem unconcerned. I had recently seen Pierce Brosnan
in a disaster movie about a volcano erupting and destroying a small town.
Tall thin and dark haired could describe Osama Bin Laden or some of the other
terrorists. The building falling into a hole in the ground is obvious!)

I had, by the way, posted the July 13 and July 31 dreams on an email list on
August 1, with the title "Buildings Falling Into the Ground?" So I know they're
still there in the archives.

Much of this was typed in right after 9/11, so some things have changed.
My ex's wife in this dream was wife # 2, who died March, 2008. He's
remarried again in October, 2008, to wife # 3. And it's been more than 6 or 7 years
that he's had all those health problems, though he seems to be doing
okay. My son says he got his stomach stapled to help his weight problem,
which is a good thing with all that going on! (Also have talked to ex since typing this in for another board, and he says his health is better than it's ever been, so I guess the surgery was a success for him!)

Anyway... I love precognitive dreams, but also get a bit frustrated about there not being *enough* information in them at times. I've always wondered if we all shared dreams more, would we get all the pieces as a group? It is extremely rare to get dates, so it never even occurred to the gravestones were giving me a date, and yet, of course, the date of birth and death is always recorded on gravestones. Shrug... gotta love it!

[pockets]

July 31: Dream: This one was very long and involved, so, of course, I forgot
a lot at the beginning. I KNOW it was interesting too! Anyway, from where I
remember, I was with a tall thin man with dark hair who looked to me like the
actor Pierce Brosnan, and he was waving a scalpel around in the air, and said
he had stabbed his wife in the back with it. He seemed totally unconcerned
about it, as if there wasn't anything to worry about at all. I felt rather
shocked, and said, "You stabbed her in the back?!?!!!" He still looked
unconcerned. He took off down the hill as if there was some emergency, and
another man, with blonde hair, said to me, "He isn't who you think he is." I
sort of shrugged him off, though I was bothered by what he'd said, and
started to follow "Pierce" down the hill, but he had gone so far ahead that
he was out of sight.


this doesnt really have anything to do with sept 11th but, recently there was a stabbing in my country, a went upto this pregnant lady in the road and stabbed her in the back for no reason and walked away (he didnt know her & she was on the way to work).

its kind of similar to your july 31st bit.

[Wolfjk]

Hi IrisEavenstar,
Many people found dreams that they deemed to be related to 9/11 after the event.
I made a point of looking through tens of thousands of pre 9/11 dreams and did not find any that predicted or related to the tragedy. In 2002 and 2003 the Alternative Dream Forum and Dream Central had many thousands (ADF alone had more than 30000) of dreams accessible that were posted before the event.

However in the UK, one clever person used old photos of a post office clock showing a pre 9/11 date and grafted his dream onto it after the event to try claim a prize! -which he did not get!
Many people- even highly educated ones- claimed false connections. And still do!
Cheers Wolfjk

[IrisRavenstar]

Well, Wolf, if you can't see the relationship between my dreams, all of which occurred PRIOR to 9/11, and the events, then you are truly lacking in sight! Give it up, okay? You sound like a nutty old fuddyduddy who refuses to get educated.

[Wolfjk]

Originally Posted by IrisRavenstar

Well, Wolf, if you can't see the relationship between my dreams, all of which occurred PRIOR to 9/11, and the events, then you are truly lacking in sight! Give it up, okay? You sound like a nutty old fuddyduddy who refuses to get educated.

Hi IrisRavenstar,
You can also call me a down-to-Earth realist! I'm still working on my education! You know the saying: A GOOD PREACHER NEVER STOPS LEARNING AND REMAINS IGNORANT WHEN HE DIES!!
It is true! I have not got the creative ability to link any of your dreams to 9/11. I have not coame across them on any of the boards either!
Cheers Wolfjk

[IrisRavenstar]

Since I've never encountered you before, I've no idea what boards you frequent other than this one, Wolf. And frankly, I don't give a damn whether you believe me or not, so I'm not breaking the cover of my screen name to point you to where they are. I'm quite sure you wouldn't be welcome on that list anyway. I'm tired of your attacks, and your inability to allow others to differ from you, and you *are* the one doing all the attacking. Knock it off! I'm not some doormat who's going to let a bully run her down, okay. Just give it up, and do your own thing, and kindly allow me to do mine!

Sheesh!