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06-17-2009, 10:29 AM
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errr Hitler was telepathic? And Princess Di? .....
Ok anyway, Iris. Beautiful thread. Only thing for me is, that limits the spirit to having a voice only before birth or after death. I think the spirit has a voice all through life too. Just a thought anyway. Congrats on your grand baby and I am glad you are feeling better  P.S. Reread the karma post and before. Completely agree with you there Iris. And how ironic about the trees.     
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06-17-2009, 10:59 AM
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Hi Mwyna, Oh, yes, I know the spirit has a voice during life too! I talk to my ex-husband half the night sometimes, and he lives about an hour and a half's drive from me. My guide says when he's asleep, he still thinks my house is home. Sometimes, I just want him to shut up! Lately, I've been sleeping really soundly though, so maybe he's busy elsewhere for now. I also dream one son's vacations, and another one's crises, and always know when the one with substance abuse is falling off the wagon again. I hear people talking about me just before they telephone and say what I heard them thinking about calling me about. It's kind of funny, really. Karma is a hard thing to grasp at times. Even guides and angels can't just go around meting out karmic stuff without awfully good cause, and under the direction of the God/dess. This is why guides and angels do not act much in the behalf of people who don't choose to seek their guidance and connect with them. We have to choose to work with them, and allow them to guide us, and sometimes even accept ideas that go totally against what we're hearing in the outer world. Like, for example, both Shaman and Lily came from a local pet store, a privately owned one, not a chain one. Everyone says only go to breeders or adopt a stray; don't go to pet stores. But they brought me to the dogs, and both are especially suited to ME... perfectly so... except for Little Miss Lily's BARKING. She's awful when I'm online... barking at everything in the street. I either have to close her in here with me, or listen to her barking in the other room, or if I get really tired of it, give her time out in her crate. But she is the most loving affectionate little thing ever, soft, cuddly, and beautiful. My guides helped me through my divorce, helped me through every illness I've had since meeting them without medical intervention, in fact, pointing me away from it. Besides Leslie, who is my fulltime personal guide, there is JoAnne, who is a specialist guide in nutritional and herbal healing, but she's only around if I actually am following what I'm supposed to be doing. If I don't, she goes silent on me until I get myself back on track. Which is right, she should! I know what I'm supposed to do, and it's a matter of retraining myself is all. I loved that those trees were given to me just after that dream, because I knew they were from Spirit and my guides too, and my ex and his wife even dug the holes and planted them! It was the one really thoughtful thing they ever did for me, not something my ex was contracted to do legally. I love the trees! Thanks... I'm awaiting photos! I'm sure she'll be adorable. I did have one vision of her, I think, but it flashed really fast, hard to grasp it fully.
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06-19-2009, 04:00 AM
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spirit entering the body
DearIrisRavenstar: My statement about the spirit or light being was what I have understood from reading. I also observed you did not counter that with that you had read and researched the information you presented. If a reader has an opinion other than your own its simply pseudo-scientific hogwash. That makes things pretty simple, you are the goddess . I stand corrected.
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06-19-2009, 06:40 AM
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06-19-2009, 06:46 AM
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You are right. I like this place, I like the idea of it as so many different views can share the same space. But I am increasingly sad when I see posts telling people they are flat out wrong and worse such as they are possessed by demons/satan, insane and drug addicts. I'm wondering if there are any rules regarding respecting other users and their opinions here and if not, now that the site is growing maybe there should be.
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06-19-2009, 08:24 AM
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But what I was talking about in this thread was personal experience, not books, that involved dreams and intuitively received messages. I don't believe everything I read, because there is a lot out there that is totally ludicrous, especially in New Age areas, which get weirder and weirder with all the aliens and planets causing everything. Some people will swallow anything just because they read it somewhere on the internet. It's too bad, but really, unless it's verified by my own personal experience, I take it all with a hefty grain of salt.
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06-19-2009, 08:49 AM
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Hi NfoJunkie,
I know telepathy is real, because I have so many experiences with it! Verified ones. Like one day, my ex was in the hospital because he'd had a heart attack, and I was home with my arm in a cast from automobile accident injuries which involved a broken collarbone and cracked clavicle. I distinctly hear a feminine inner voice say, "We've got to get a nanny for Iris." About two minutes later the phone rang, and it was my sister-in-law, and she said she and her mom had just been talking about whether I might need a home health aide to come in and help me out (the nanny!). I had gotten the gist of what they were talking about clairaudiently! This kind of thing happens to me all the time, so I do believe it! I'm not so sure about telekinesis, though I remain open to the possibility, simply because I haven't experienced it... when I do, I'll believ it. I did, in fact, see someone ostensibly bend a spoon once, but there are bendable spoons for sale on the internet, a trick really, so I wasn't terribly impressed, especially since the man also, when asked by another audience member about a publicly known lie in one of his books, used the following statement as his defense: "I'm Irish, so I can't help embellishing the truth." LOL! Too much kissing the Blarney Stone for that one, I guess! Some people really do cast doubt on themselves. He was a very well known New Age author, self-dubbed the Peace Troubador, and I'd been dragged by friends to hear him speak. I'd also had warning dreams prior to the event, so as I said in my last post... I keep a hefty grain of salt handy. That was an interesting evening overall though, and it's always a learning experience, no matter what. I have had a really good experience with psychometry though. Psychometry is reading energy off of objects, and is often used in missing persons cases. I had gone with friends to hear a local woman who is what I term a "performance psychic", as she's like on a stage and doing mini-readings around the room. She decided to have us participate in an experiment with psychometry. She passed a basket around the room, and had us each place an object in the basket, then passed it around again, and we were told to each take an object not our own. I got a set of car keys on a ring, all metal. As soon as I touched the keys, my Reiki energy turned on spontaneously (hands get hot when sending Reiki and you can feel the energy in them), and I got this overpowering scent of cigarette smoke. No one was smoking in the room. I thought about this, and verified it with my guide Leslie. I said to him, internally, I think this means she needs to stop smoking for her health, and it's very important that she do that. Leslie said I was right, and I passed on the message to the woman who owned the keys. She said she had been thinking about quitting smoking, and did indeed smoke too much. I was struck by the fact that metal doesn't hold smoke or any other scent, as it isn't made to do that, so realized even the scent was received psychically. I've had other experiences of that since, so know it's true. That's not something I've read anywhere before so far, just experience. Anyway, it's interesting to explore all these gifts, and it's obvious they're there to help and heal others, at least to me. But I think often people get caught up in things without that kind of purpose, they're more interested in money or power, and that tends to lead them astray, which can be sad to watch.
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06-19-2009, 09:02 AM
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Shrug... most people do outgrow that mindset. I did!!! Of course, it took a clinical depression to shove me kicking and screaming out of it. So I have a degree of understanding, but not much sympathy when it's used to attack other Christians. That's kind of weird. It was weird when I saw my church implode because of it, and it's weird on the internet. I can tell the Evangelicals that if they want and exclusive list with like-minded people, there is one on yahoogroups called "DreamsfromHim". No one is allowed to express any ideas there outside the party line. Maybe some would like it better in that environment? But here, it seems to be a mixed group, and I personally like that! But if they don't, there is a choice. Probably more than one, but that's the only one I know of that is actually very active.
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06-19-2009, 11:19 PM
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Hello, IrisRavenstar. For me as well it's what I've noticed and experienced that forces me to think there's something more, despite the logical, scientific way I naturally think. Some can be explained as intuition or things that I might have subconsciously known or noticed, but other things are harder to explain and I couldn't possibly have known. Like one time I was sitting with friends, thinking of a few things I planned on bringing up at the next break in the conversation (without interrupting). But everyone else brought up the same topics & events I was thinking of one by one, before I got the chance to speak. I'll sometimes be thinking of someone I haven't seen in awhile then very soon I'll either cross paths with them, or someone else will randomly start talking about the person. For the most part it seems to happen at random & I have little to no control or discipline over it, but it seems to also be there whenever it really matters & it seems beyond coincidence.
Perhaps the best example is this... For the past couple years I've been trying to figure out a good idea for a career to pursue for myself, so I can hopefully stop trading so much of my life for hardly enough money to keep a bed, roof, and food. I don't care much for money (beyond it's necessity for one to survive in this culture) & never hoped to become "rich" one day, so it has to be a career I'd enjoy doing, or that would actually make a difference in the world. About a year ago I started looking into solar panels and how they're made, and found that it's really not all that complex of a process or that expensive for the materials (I just have a lot more research to do & haven't yet saved the money to start up such a project). About six months ago my brother came down to visit and has been down ever since. I mentioned the solar panel idea to him and he thought it was a great idea. When he mentioned it to my mom, she said that our father had just been talking about & looking into the same idea. I later called an old, good friend that I hadn't talked to in months & he also said that him and his cousin have been recently considering the EXACT SAME idea themselves. Am I reading other people's minds or are they reading mine? For this reason I've been reading & learning more about Carl Jung's discoveries and theories on "the collective unconscious" & have recently been realizing that dreams could be a big clue. There seems to always have been some sort of guiding force, or external power influencing the moves I make through life & it still puzzles me. Psychometry would be a very cool ability to posess. I know some people that have showed me some very interesting things they've found in the most peculiar, unlikely places (like finding an intricate antique knife or piece of jewelry in the woods in the middle of nowhere or in other peculiar places that aren't often travelled). It would be cool to know something more about the items' history. Hands getting hot during healing sounds very much like some stuff I've read about, heard from friends, and seen videos of, called Qi-Gong. In one of the videos, a healer allowed them an interview and allowed them to record a healing session with thermal cameras that showed the rising temperatures in his hands, and even on the normal cameras you could see steam coming off a wet rag. In this & other videos, you noticed a pulsing vibration in their hands, is it the same for you? People in the videos and even people I know all say that somehow afterwards they felt great, and had a total sense of peace. It's surprising that I don't know more about Reiki healing, since an old friend's mom is a Reiki healer, she just never preached to us about it without being asked and it seemed too far from my understanding of things back then to even think to ask.. Now that I've learned more and grown up a bit more I find all these things very intriguing.
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06-20-2009, 09:20 AM
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Hi NfoJunkie!
Boy do I understand the feeling of being forced to pay attention to all this, despite normally being very logical! I was supposed to be a mathematician, really, according to all my high school counselors, so logic is engrained. I was in a lot special advanced algebra classes, and tested into calculus in my thirities when I went back to college. But I didn't like it much, and never could really grasp physics, which felt too theoretical to me, like a house of cards. So, I got more into languages, English literature, and poetry... though my major in college was Occupational Therapy with a minor in Psychology. I didn't finish though, but did use it to work in Therapeutic Recreation for awhile, both a paid job in a nursing home, and a volunteer position at a state mental hospital. But then my brother died, and I had my fortieth birthday, and I sort of got hit with a series of dreams so vivid and intense that I *still* remember them. The dreams told me stop being an "Ugly American" walking around in someone else's country expecting them to speak my language, and learn God's language, the language of dreams. I started cramming with everything I could read on dreams and symbol, and filling dream journals, and wow... then I started opening up psychically, and the psychic things were often announced in a dream, like clairaudience, or clairvoyance, or, surprisingly, exegesis (which is being able to read sacred texts and get the true meaning from them, which not everyone does). This all started in 1986, and has been ongoing ever since! I also get that kind of thing with conversations. I think my guide takes me through different experiences, sometimes just once, just to let me know I CAN if/when I need to. Often I'm aware that "need to know" is an element in psychic interactions... it's not something where we just get to be nosy nellies for no good purpose. One day, I was working at our library annex down the hill from me, and working with a librarian I hadn't met before, because she only worked the annex, and I usually worked the main library. For some reason, that whole four hour shift was spent with me psychically hearing every sentence she uttered in my head a moment *before* she said it out loud, like I was hearing her formulate what she was going to say. I was *exhausted* by the end of the shift, and extremely grateful that it's not like that all the time! Now, I didn't hear anything going on in her head except what she was about to say anyway, so there was no intrusion involved at all. I don't know any of her deep dark secrets.  Interestingly, she lives on the street that starts across the street from me, but I never see her in the neighborhood either. I think she works for Town Hall as well as the library though, so probably is not home much.I love your idea for a career! This world's focus is going to have to be on this kind of thing, for sure! My brother moved to Florida after our brother Tom died, and he started his own business down there cleaning and detailing boats for wealthy clients, and has been very successful, owning his own home, plus several vacation rental cottages in Tennessee, where he goes when he wants a vacation or to escape a hurricane. Small businesses are definitely ripe with potential if you really think them through before you start, and learn what you need to know. Good luck with that! I have the exact same views of money. I just want enough to be comfortable, as excess seems rather silly. If you live in a mansion, you've got to hire all these people, and I think must become a prisoner to all those possessions, really. I like to have a comfortable home, a roof over my head, and enough money for things that are necessary to me, like food, comfortable clothes, keeping my car running, gas for the car, books, DVD's and CD's. And craft supplies, a few flowers to brighten my garden. I don't need to be wealthy, just comfy. I wonder if you could work for someone who is installing solar panels for awhile first, and learn the ropes that way? Maybe your brother and dad could join in with you! My stepfather worked with my brother for awhile with his boat business, before he got cancer. John's wife did as well, but got an office job later on, as the work was a bit too physical for her, I think. I also read my way through Carl Jung's books years ago, and Freud too, during the time I was in therapy for a clinical depression. My therapist was of the mindset that his job was in part to educate me so I could continue with my own ongoing therapy after I was done with him. This was why I minored in psychology, really, as it gave me a whole new view of the world. I was glad I had that particular psychiatrist, because I loved the talk part of therapy. I could have done without the drug part though! None of them worked, and I got all these side-effects and allergic reactions... ugh! Jung was a very spiritual man, even having his own guide who was called Philemon. I find him very fascinating, but am not really either a Freudian or a Jungian, I'm just myself! How cool to find such objects in the wild... that would make me wonder as well! I haven't had occasion to actually try psychometry since that evening, but I know if I actually needed it, I probably would be able to do it. That woman obviously needed the message I had to give her that evening. My favorite book on Reiki, because it gives *all* the information, including stuff you usually have to get from the Reiki Master, is _The Essential Reiki_ by Diane Stein. She's a great writer too, very lucid and readable. I took Reiki because of car accident injuries that were still causing a lot of pain (still are, actually) as a way of controlling the pain without N-Saids. I only took Reiki I, because I didn't intend to use it professionally, just to do self-Reiki. It really does make your hands hot, and I feel the heat wherever I touch myself. It's a bargain, really, to take a Reiki I attunement, which costs about $125-150... might vary in your area. You can then do self-Reiki every day if you want to! Considering one full body session runs around $50, it pays for itself with three sessions. Then it's free forever. Then, if you wanted to go professional, you can work up to being a Reiki Master yourself. For me, Reiki is the same as the laying on of hands for healing in church... the energy comes from the Holy Spirit. I like to combine self-Reiki with meditation, as it does relax me totally, and it just feels good and right to do it that way. I also put on soft music with no voices, and light an aromatherapy diffuser with lavender to relax. I take about 45 minutes, and it can be lovely, sometimes even with waking dreams or visions.Yep, it all very intriguing, and an adventure when you get ready to delve into it, for sure!
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