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Old 01-14-2009, 03:15 AM
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This is a very serious warning to all those in America. God has been giving persons dreams and visions about America getting attacked. God gave a man a vision/dream about America and what is about to happen to her. This man is in Romania and his wife is in America and he was greatly concerned about his wife being in America because of the judgement he knew was coming on America. God gave him a vision/dream and in it he heard two great explosions occcuring in America one to his left and one to his right in. One of these explosions he said sounded like it has the capability to wipe out an entire city. He does not know if it is nuclear explosions or chemical/biological weapons He also said that angels were deployed at the sound of a trumpet to protect those Christians who truly loved God and was walking according to his will. You can listen to this vision/dream being explained in the link below entitled, "Interviews with Geno Schmidt August 2005 - Warning to America". There are five radio interviews of this, only three has been posted thus far. Please listen and set your heart right with Jesus Christ before it is too late. Please prepare for it.

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Old 01-14-2009, 12:06 PM
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This is a very serious warning to all those in America. God has been giving persons dreams and visions about America getting attacked. God gave a man a vision/dream about America and what is about to happen to her. This man is in Romania and his wife is in America and he was greatly concerned about his wife being in America because of the judgement he knew was coming on America. God gave him a vision/dream and in it he heard two great explosions occcuring in America one to his left and one to his right in. One of these explosions he said sounded like it has the capability to wipe out an entire city. He does not know if it is nuclear explosions or chemical/biological weapons He also said that angels were deployed at the sound of a trumpet to protect those Christians who truly loved God and was walking according to his will. You can listen to this vision/dream being explained in the link below entitled, "Interviews with Geno Schmidt August 2005 - Warning to America". There are five radio interviews of this, only three has been posted thus far. Please listen and set your heart right with Jesus Christ before it is too late. Please prepare for it.

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Hi,
You can dream about a disaster only after it happened but not before! However if you can consciously decide that something will lead to a calamity, then you can dream about it.
You can't believe every nutcase who imagines he or she can see the future. Nobody can!
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Wolfjk, God himself sometimes give people warning dreams of the future so that they can prepare for what is ahead
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Wolfjk, God himself sometimes give people warning dreams of the future so that they can prepare for what is ahead
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A responsible human being should not rely on the supernatural, but take responsibility for his or her actions towards the other inhabitants of this Universe.
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A responsible human being should not rely on the supernatural, but take responsibility for his or her actions towards the other inhabitants of this Universe.


And what would an atheist with very little moral standard know about "being a responsible human?"



Don't complaign about people "Preaching" their beliefs on here if you're going to do the exact same thing.
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Funny thing is, Christ is actually the truth. He creates a new nature inside of people. Atheists and unbelievers just don't understand until they feel that.

First you need to realize that we all sin, come away from the desires and addictions of the world, and live for the spirit instead of all these worldly things that everyone is trapped under. Christ can help us change if we ask him for help.

People could try and argue, but this is just what I have seen, and its totally good.

Also, the doomsday of this planet is coming right now. We are in the last days. People need to change quick before all the good are gone. Christ said the way of truth would be very narrow, and few would find it. God will come to destroy those who destroy the earth, and blaspheme his name.

Christ also said that if the Lord didn't return when he did, no flesh would be saved, not one living thing.

"Matthew 24", "Luke 21", and "2 Timothy 3" are clear evidence of that.

Anyways, peace all. Time for everyone to choose for or against him. He also said: "He who is not with me is against me."

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Old 01-17-2009, 01:58 AM
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i'm not here to make waves, preach, or try to change anyone's views. just wanted to make that clear, as i have nothing but respect for true believers. the world tests you everyday, and yet you still manage to beleive, and that's wonderful.
but for those who don't believe, or don't know what to believe, the world tests them just as much.
recently i decided i wasn't christian. not because i don't particulary believe in god, but because i don't believe in the bible. i'm not going to present my reasons here, becuase this isn't the point of my post, and i won't defend them here either, so please don't bother flaming me.
this was not an easy decision for me, i was raised southern babtist, and if i walked out in the streets of my home town and said "hey, i'm not christain", i'd be lucky to just get a talking to.
afterwards, i sat down, and suddenly it hit me what a huge thing not having a set religion is. not really knowing what you believe.
understanding the difference between right and wrong, doing what we percieve to be right simply because we do, is what truly distinguishes us from the "animals".
the problem is, what is "right" and what is "wrong". when you have a set religion, this is meant to be a very easy thing. after all, the "rules" are laid out in front of you. even if you judge these rules to be just a guideline, they are still there.
i have a high respect for atheists are uphold what i consider to be basic human morals. not becuase i think most atheists are out running down the streets killing people, but because of a simple truth. if you don't believe in god, or the afterlife, what reward is there for good behavior. and what punishmeant for bad.
to be truly without religion means you do the right thing, and not for a reward. not because you're going to burn in hell if you don't. simply becuase it's right.
laws do not judge our every action. there are many moral things we do that have nothing to do with law.
i know this has nothing to do with the original thread. and, as i said, i'm not setting out to change anyone's believes.
just trying to spread a little love.
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Hi, all, I'm new so hope i don't upset anybody

I'm a non believer, in god, but that doesn't mean i don't know right from wrong! Me and my partner live together, yes out of wedlock, and have 3 beautiful children, who are also being bought up to believe what they feel is right. ALL of my children now the difference between right and wrong. We work hard and enjoy what we have, but i don't behave this way because of the next life. It was the way i was bought up!

Whilst at school i studdied RE GCSE level, so have a little bit more insight, then the next person. This didn't put me of being a believer, just opened my mind.

I do have high interest in the afterlife, and have experienced some strange goings on, especially since losing my nan, 4 years ago. But unfortunatley, losing my nan, has made me even more sure there is no god. My nan was a good person, never hurt anybody, was always ready to help, with no questions asked. After losing my grandad, she decided to go back to the church and become a born again christian. She loved going to church, and the sence of community, it gave her. But this did her no good, when she found out she had terminal cancer. 4 months after finding out she had cancer she was dead! But she didn't go quitely, and held on to the end. So please excuse me, if i sound bitter. And i have heard all about, god taking her because she was a good person. It broke her heart when she found out, as i had just had my son, her first great grandson, and she wouldn't see him grow up.

Look forward to receiving your responses, as i love a good debate lol

No harm intended.,....
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Old 01-17-2009, 05:20 AM
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Unhappy i think too much, and that's a fact.

oh crap, i hope you didn't take what i was saying to mean that non-religious people don't know right from wrong. i really don't think that. i was reffering to my own journey, and how i came to decide i wasn't christian.
a lot of the reason is because i've always had the belief that it was somebody's own business what they did, as long as they didn't hurt anybody.
my uncle was gay, and i loved him dearly. i've never seen anything wrong with him. my best friend for most of my life, however was a very religious person, and often said that being gay was wrong. we had some of our worst arguments over that, and the fact that i could never see god letting people who had never been exposed to the christian religion rot for eternity. she said that if i died tommorow, no matter how good i'd been, no matter if i was a veritable saint, i would still go to hell if i hadn't been babtised.
i never brought up religion with her again, because puritanical views aside, she was a good person, and friend.
i question a lot what the difference between right and wrong is, and what makes something right or wrong. most of us, i think, go through life without thinking too deeply about it.
knowing as i have people from all walks of life, i think i can say that almost any crime, or sin, or moral wrong doing can be made to seem sympathetic.
i mean, my stepfather thinks mexican's are wrong for crossing the border to find better life's for themselves, and all i can say to him is that if his daughter was starving, if he thought he could make a better life for her, wouldn't he?
i don't think any but the insane set out to do things that are wrong. no one sets out to hurt others or be bad. the road to hell is paved with good intentions, right?
the point i'm trying to make is i've spent a lot of time wondering where you cross the line. what's wrong in what situation, and when i realized i know longer believed in the bible, no longer neccessarily believed in god, and thought what that meant...
i felt like that guy in planet of the apes when he sees the statue of liberty, lol.
if the only guidance i have to morality is my own, well, i thought, i'm screwed right? my moral compass has been screwed up since day one.
suddenly i wanted to take out a scrap of paper and write down everyting i'd ever believed on the subject of morality, and decide which one's i really believed were wrong.
people kill people everyday, is murder wrong? is murder wrong when a life is at stake? what mother wouldn't strike to kill when defending their child?
is love wrong? let's go out the bounds of homosexuality, what exactly makes love wrong? if someone falls in love with an idea, or picture, someone seperated by race religion or some looming age gap?
what about stealing, or sex, or running naked down the street. outside the bounds of the law that most people, have, at some time, had a bone of contention with, what is right, and what is wrong?
underage drinking, smoking marijuanna... most things fall into this shade of gray.


i think too much, and that's a fact.
i meant to say though, not that atheists, people without religion, whatever, not that they didn't know right from wrong. i just meant to point out something i've always wanted to tell that overly zealous friend of mine. that being a good little girl just because you're gonna get tanned doesn't make you a good person.
doing what's right even when all you think you're getting out of it is dirt? well, that certainly does.
and i'm not even strictly atheist, so i'm not saying i'm a particularly good person. i do belive there's more to people than flesh and bone, i do believe in the soul.
honestly, and to quote another tv moment, humans worrying about the nature of god is like penguins worrying about rocket science.

and for the record i never would say that religious people are only good because of reward. i just don't like people making people out to have no morals just because they have different one's.


oh and once again, i'm so not trying to make anyone change their religious views. i just wanted you to understand my state of mind, not adopt it.

wow.. that's long. i sure am a windbag.
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I dont understand how that can be true.Sure god gave dreams to people long ago.But there is no need for god to give dreams or visions to people to talk to them.We have the bible and the bible contains gods word.Does he need to speak to us through dreams when we have the bible?(Hebrew 1:1, 2 )mentions"God, who long ago spoke on many occasions and in many ways to our forefathers by means of the prophets.Has at the end of these days spoken to us by means of a son,whom he made the sytem of things.
In the days of gods prophet jeremiah there were false prophets saying "i have had a dream!I have had a dream!"(jeremiah 23:25)their intentions were to mislead the people into thinking that god was speaking through them.But god told them not to listen to the practicers of divination and the prohets because they were prophesysing false hood in his name. (jeremiah 28:8,9)
since the false prophets were practicers of divination they could have been influenced by wicked spirit forces for deceiving the people.
(zechariah 10:2)
The devil is the archdeciever who has for thousands of years used religious leaders to claim that god spoke to them through visions and dreams.
the inspired writer jude wrote (jude 4:8)Certain men have slipped in who have long ago been appointed by the Scriptures to this judgment, ungodly men, turning the undeserved kindness of our God into an excuse for loose conduct and proving false to our only Owner and Lord, Jesus Christ." These men, he said, were, so to speak,"indulging in dreams."
Instead of blindly believing the claims of charismatic dreamers, the wise course is for us to test their claims to avoid being misled by the invisible archdeceiver, who is "misleading the entire inhabited earth." (Revelation 12:9)
you can test their claims by using gods written word.(the bible)
jesus christ said "your word is truth"(john 17:17)

When carefully compared with the Bible, their claims, philosophies, and actions will conflict with it. God's Word is the authority as to what is truth.
If a person has a dream that his family member died and his family member dies on the same night that the dream occured.He or she could have been thinking of that family member.But it dosent prove that the dream was prophetic.there are many dreams that become a reality and there are lots that dont.In order for a dream to have future significance they have to be influenced by a superior force.But god dosent need to talk to people through dreams or visions because we have the holy bible.Jesus said "your word is truth."
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