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Old 11-17-2008, 11:22 AM
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I've noticed alot of the answers here are from people who are christians and some of the answers are quoted from the bible. I dont read the bible and not to make fun but I cant get past the first chapter without getting a migraine so bad that i have to lay down. I've heard about the stories though thru others or by remembering what was being said in sunday school when i was younger.
I've always known that i was different then others. I could meet a stranger and know something about them that either i shouldnt or couldnt know.
But i do have to ask is there anywhere in the bible that could give these answers.
When someone dies and im at the casket i see, hear and feel something others dont. I know this because i ask others if they see it or hear it.
Above the deceased persons head is what looks like a glowing shiny ring. the deceased person is breathing there chest is going up and down. I feel like im being pulled in to them and it takes everything i have to not get drawn in. i sometimes just walk away or i sometimes just stand there and stare at them trying to figure out what they want from me. I hear crying, screaming. pleaing help me's. this doesnt happen at every funeral it only happens at some. sometimes not all the above happens. at a few viewings there was just the ring around the head, I dont know what I'm going to feel until im there standing next to the casket. Sometimes I choose to not say goodbye and stay home because I dont know what Im going to hear and see and feel.
I dont know why Im like i am and hopefully if im able to get answers I'll no how to live with it, deal with it and my life can be more at ease. so if anyone that reads this can help me or just point me in the right direction to look for an answer I would so appreciate it.
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I've noticed alot of the answers here are from people who are Christians and some of the answers are quoted from the bible. I dont read the bible and not to make fun but I cant get past the first chapter without getting a migraine so bad that i have to lay down. I've heard about the stories though thru others or by remembering what was being said in Sunday school when i was younger.
I've always known that i was different then others. I could meet a stranger and know something about them that either i shouldnt or couldn't know.
But i do have to ask is there anywhere in the bible that could give these answers.
When someone dies and im at the casket i see, hear and feel something others dont. I know this because i ask others if they see it or hear it.
Above the deceased persons head is what looks like a glowing shiny ring. the deceased person is breathing there chest is going up and down. I feel like im being pulled in to them and it takes everything i have to not get drawn in. i sometimes just walk away or i sometimes just stand there and stare at them trying to figure out what they want from me. I hear crying, screaming. pleaing help me's. this doesnt happen at every funeral it only happens at some. sometimes not all the above happens. at a few viewings there was just the ring around the head, I dont know what I'm going to feel until im there standing next to the casket. Sometimes I choose to not say goodbye and stay home because I dont know what Im going to hear and see and feel.
I dont know why Im like i am and hopefully if im able to get answers I'll no how to live with it, deal with it and my life can be more at ease. so if anyone that reads this can help me or just point me in the right direction to look for an answer I would so appreciate it.
Hi Debbie,

First of all I just want to say that I felt your need when I read your thread and is very glad that you are trying to find answers and would like to press on the fact that Jesus really loves. The fact that you get a huge migraine when you read the Bible is not normal and satan will do whatever he can to keep you away from the Truth. There might have been a time in your life you gave demons the right to access your life unknowingly.....
Your experiences you get when you come close to deceased people is also something our Lord Jesus warns us about.
Please Debbie, I cannot help you, but I know Jesus Christ can and will free you of that evil stronghold. Fortunately for us Jesus is more powerful than the devil and conquered evil when He died on the cross for our sins! It does not matter what you have done in your past, because I know the devil will never forget your past and always keep it in your mind trying to let you feel guilty and think that you do not deserve His amazing love! Just repent and walk away from your old life and Jesus will clear your slate! He did it for me and will do it for you!

You must want to get rid of that strange feelings you get and want to change your life, turn around and walk the narrow path to Salvation.
Go here and accept the Love of Jesus and be free! The Sinners Prayer
If you are still experiencing weird things after this, we need to pray for you!

Even in this forum you will see how the devil will try to stop you of receiving the power of Jesus Christ, because when you do you can cast devils to the Pitt from where they came from!

The first thing would be to try to make me as if I am a freak or some weird character serving some weird god, but please do not take note of their lies.

Hope you have a blessed day!

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You say the deceased bodies cry, scream and plead for help? Maybe this statement will let some people rethink their views! Thank you Debbie.
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First of all I just want to say that I felt your need when I read your thread and is very glad that you are trying to find answers and would like to press on the fact that Jesus really loves. The fact that you get a huge migraine when you read the Bible is not normal and satan will do whatever he can to keep you away from the Truth. There might have been a time in your life you gave demons the right to access your life unknowingly.....
Your experiences you get when you come close to deceased people is also something our Lord Jesus warns us about.
Please Debbie, I cannot help you, but I know Jesus Christ can and will free you of that evil stronghold. Fortunately for us Jesus is more powerful than the devil and conquered evil when He died on the cross for our sins! It does not matter what you have done in your past, because I know the devil will never forget your past and always keep it in your mind trying to let you feel guilty and think that you do not deserve His amazing love! Just repent and walk away from your old life and Jesus will clear your slate! He did it for me and will do it for you!

You must want to get rid of that strange feelings you get and want to change your life, turn around and walk the narrow path to Salvation.
Go here and accept the Love of Jesus and be free! The Sinners Prayer
If you are still experiencing weird things after this, we need to pray for you!

Even in this forum you will see how the devil will try to stop you of receiving the power of Jesus Christ, because when you do you can cast devils to the Pitt from where they came from!

The first thing would be to try to make me as if I am a freak or some weird character serving some weird god, but please do not take note of their lies.

Hope you have a blessed day!

Hawk

You say the deceased bodies cry, scream and plead for help? Maybe this statement will let some people rethink their views! Thank you Debbie.
Funny how you say i should more or less repent my sins and somehow this will all go away. forgive me but what if i was a christian and was living my life for the lord. your not the first and I'm sure you wont be the last that will tell me to repent my sins. but what sins should i ask for forgiveness for? just because we dont see or hear jesus christ doesnt mean he isnt there. correct?
so what if i am different. what if these things were really there and i wasnt "nuts" or feeling that way anyways. do you relize how many people actually think I'm Nuts by admitting i see, hear and feel these things?
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Funny how you say i should more or less repent my sins and somehow this will all go away. forgive me but what if i was a christian and was living my life for the lord. your not the first and I'm sure you wont be the last that will tell me to repent my sins. but what sins should i ask for forgiveness for? just because we dont see or hear jesus christ doesnt mean he isnt there. correct?
so what if i am different. what if these things were really there and i wasnt "nuts" or feeling that way anyways. do you relize how many people actually think I'm Nuts by admitting i see, hear and feel these things?
by the time someone gets to the funeral they have already passed over and have been in the morgue for quite sometime they don't just stay in there body till you come to the funeral.
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by the time someone gets to the funeral they have already passed over and have been in the morgue for quite sometime they don't just stay in there body till you come to the funeral.
I guess that happens in most cases, but since we have so litte experience of death it could be that in some cases the soul takes a bit longer to pass over.....especially the ones that did not believe or is afraid to pass over! She did note that they were screaming and asking for help? That sounds like fear and not paradise........?

Debbie, I do not think you nuts, but I am not sure if you want to get rid of these experiences you getting. Just remember that in the beginning you will think you have powers and it might boost your ego, but it comes with a price.
You say that you do not know what to repent, does that mean that your thoughts and acts are clean according the Word of God? Did you do nothing wrong in your past? You of all people should know that there is a spiritual realm and would probably want to know how to protect yourself and make sure you do not become of these unhappy and frightened souls you have experienced. Why would you get a migrain if you start to read the Bible? Does this happen with all the books or articles you read?
If you are happy with how you are now you will not want to repent, because you do not see the reason why.
As a Christian you give your will to the Father, so after you are born again you do not have a free will anymore, because you made a choice and gave it to Jesus! Your will must now follow His will! To do His will you must follow the Word of God! Even if you try as hard as you can you will never be as clean as God would want you to be, that is why the only way we can go to the Father is through Jesus who died for our sins and is our Savior.
If you do not give your will to Jesus, you are believing you do not need Him as your God and you are your own god so to speak.

You need to make a fullharted decision who you want to be in controll of your life Debbie, you, satan or Jesus?
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I guess that happens in most cases, but since we have so litte experience of death it could be that in some cases the soul takes a bit longer to pass over.....especially the ones that did not believe or is afraid to pass over! She did note that they were screaming and asking for help? That sounds like fear and not paradise........?

Debbie, I do not think you nuts, but I am not sure if you want to get rid of these experiences you getting. Just remember that in the beginning you will think you have powers and it might boost your ego, but it comes with a price.
You say that you do not know what to repent, does that mean that your thoughts and acts are clean according the Word of God? Did you do nothing wrong in your past? You of all people should know that there is a spiritual realm and would probably want to know how to protect yourself and make sure you do not become of these unhappy and frightened souls you have experienced. Why would you get a migrain if you start to read the Bible? Does this happen with all the books or articles you read?
If you are happy with how you are now you will not want to repent, because you do not see the reason why.
As a Christian you give your will to the Father, so after you are born again you do not have a free will anymore, because you made a choice and gave it to Jesus! Your will must now follow His will! To do His will you must follow the Word of God! Even if you try as hard as you can you will never be as clean as God would want you to be, that is why the only way we can go to the Father is through Jesus who died for our sins and is our Savior.
If you do not give your will to Jesus, you are believing you do not need Him as your God and you are your own god so to speak.

You need to make a fullharted decision who you want to be in controll of your life Debbie, you, satan or Jesus?
No I dont want to boost my ego or think i have a super power. I know Im different and I either want to be a normal person or at least be able to understand why i see and feel this way. its not just funerals. Its dreams to and i also see and feel things are going to happen or as they are happening some where in the world like 911 who woulda thought that day would come?
i remember that day and those feelings like it was yesterday but i felt them hrs before the planes actually hit. who could i have warned? who would have listened? as far as repenting my sins and this will all go away i doubt that. although god does have the powers to do so at 5, 6, 10 years old what could i have done in life to turn out this way? I do believe in god and what is wrote and i do remember what was being taught in sunday school and i do and have watched tv shows of pastors preaching so im not a complete dummy when it comes to whats actually wrote in the bible. and yes i do consider myself to be christain whether ive read the bible or not. how many people are there in the world that cant read or write period. are they non christains because they cant read it? No. we find other ways of learning and comprehending whats been said/wrote.
I just would like to know if there is anywhere in the bible that talks about people who see, hear and feel the things i do? I dont claim to be a physic. I just want to live a normal life and not feel this way. When i was little girl. I had a dream that i would never die, the world would come to an end before i died of natural causes. that dream has stayed with me thru the years and sometimes when i'm not doing anything at all the thoughts of that dream comes back and reminds me. I guess somethings in life are meant to stay unanswered and this is one for me, because no one knows but the man upstairs whats going to happen or why we feel the way we do. If i was to somehow figure this one out I'd have life questions answered and thats something i believe god put a veil around. it will only be exposed once im expired. but if all my dreams come true and the world comes to an end before i die from natural causes then it wasnt answered for me. but by then i guess I could say who cares. because dont we forget our lives here on earth once we die and go to heaven or hell?
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No I dont want to boost my ego or think i have a super power. I know Im different and I either want to be a normal person or at least be able to understand why i see and feel this way. its not just funerals. Its dreams to and i also see and feel things are going to happen or as they are happening some where in the world like 911 who woulda thought that day would come?
i remember that day and those feelings like it was yesterday but i felt them hrs before the planes actually hit. who could i have warned? who would have listened? as far as repenting my sins and this will all go away i doubt that. although god does have the powers to do so at 5, 6, 10 years old what could i have done in life to turn out this way? I do believe in god and what is wrote and i do remember what was being taught in sunday school and i do and have watched tv shows of pastors preaching so im not a complete dummy when it comes to whats actually wrote in the bible. and yes i do consider myself to be christain whether ive read the bible or not. how many people are there in the world that cant read or write period. are they non christains because they cant read it? No. we find other ways of learning and comprehending whats been said/wrote.
I just would like to know if there is anywhere in the bible that talks about people who see, hear and feel the things i do? I dont claim to be a physic. I just want to live a normal life and not feel this way. When i was little girl. I had a dream that i would never die, the world would come to an end before i died of natural causes. that dream has stayed with me thru the years and sometimes when i'm not doing anything at all the thoughts of that dream comes back and reminds me. I guess somethings in life are meant to stay unanswered and this is one for me, because no one knows but the man upstairs whats going to happen or why we feel the way we do. If i was to somehow figure this one out I'd have life questions answered and thats something i believe god put a veil around. it will only be exposed once im expired. but if all my dreams come true and the world comes to an end before i die from natural causes then it wasnt answered for me. but by then i guess I could say who cares. because dont we forget our lives here on earth once we die and go to heaven or hell?
Hi Debbie,

Thank you for sincerity and if I made you feel angry or upset I am sorry. All of us are different, but in the eyes of God we are the same! If you could use your senses to glorify God and help to bring souls to Him, I would say its a good thing, but if you are having the same senses that physics have I would be concerned, because you might be vulnerable to get possesed by familiar spirits. This is the reason Jesus warned us not to dwell in the spiritual realm.

I do not know if you ignored the link I gave you or not, but it holds a lot more in as just repenting your sin! See what happens if you get the strenght or courage to do the sinners prayer and let me know!
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Hello Debbied1962,
I found your posts quite interesting. If you feel different from other people, then you probably are. But please don’t think that you want to be ‘like all the others’ or that something is wrong with you. I think that maybe you are just ultra sensitive to energies around you. Have you always been sensitive or this something that has slowly developed over recent times?

You say that you don’t claim to be a physic, but to me it sounds like you are. You say you want a ‘normal’ life, but who is to say that is ‘normal’? If humans were fully functional spiritual beings, then we would all be able to see such things. But we have been closed down spiritually over a couple of thousand years to render us ‘dumb’ and controllable. I won’t instigate a long discussion as to how this has been done to the human race.

As to what you are seeing at the funerals, I will hazard a guess. I wonder if when the spirit leaves the body, there remains some energy behind. Physics can pick up the essence of a person from jewellery they have worn. So maybe this essence also stays with the physical body after death. Just vibrations.

As to what you said about never dying, that is quite true. We don’t really die, we just change shape. So maybe you are not as strange as you think. I don’t think you need to find your answers in the bible unless you really feel you want to. So don’t beat yourself up over getting a headache trying to read it. I also don’t believe that you forget all about your lives here on earth when you die, otherwise what would be the point?

Have confidence in yourself and just go with it. You don’t have to encourage or expand this awareness you have, but learn to live with it without worry.

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Thank you for sincerity and if I made you feel angry or upset I am sorry. All of us are different, but in the eyes of God we are the same! If you could use your senses to glorify God and help to bring souls to Him, I would say its a good thing, but if you are having the same senses that physics have I would be concerned, because you might be vulnerable to get possesed by familiar spirits. This is the reason Jesus warned us not to dwell in the spiritual realm.

I do not know if you ignored the link I gave you or not, but it holds a lot more in as just repenting your sin! See what happens if you get the strenght or courage to do the sinners prayer and let me know!

No you didnt make me angry or upset. I've been upset. Because of these feelings I've lived a troubled life, but not in a sinners life. and no i didnt ignore the link i saw it and clicked. I've said that prayer many times only to feel the same afterwards for years and still do. I wish i just felt this way at funerals because i wouldnt go. I'd stay home and remember my loved ones as they were not as they are. but i dont.
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