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Old 11-19-2008, 05:56 PM
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Har1eyquinn,

If you shall ever have faith, you shall never again be struck across the face nor be sent away with Messenger of Death.


Best wishes!
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Old 11-19-2008, 07:51 PM
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What the? Is that from the jewish book of fairy tales? I don't remember that part. Its been a long time since I read it. I like to read. I haven't been struck across the face since I was a child. As for the messenger of death? I don't fear death. We all die. One of the certainties in life. Its the when that is always the question. I don't really care when personally. My life is insubstantial enough to not alter the ebb and flow of life if I wasn't here.
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Old 11-19-2008, 07:58 PM
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Hello Harl1quinn

Glad you’re here. The religious ranting that goes on here is most annoying. I love discussing dreams and trying to help people overcome nightmares, but I left this forum for a while, as I got really fed up with all the god botherers.

Just ignore them. I occasionally throw in a comment to their religious rants just to ruffle their self righteous jesus feathers a bit (there is a 19 page 'fire and brimstone' effort currently being fought in the general discussions area), but for the most - I blot them out. Just don't get sucked into a theological discussion with them.

Best to stay out of the prophecy forum as well. That is really annoying.

Glad to welcome another non-religious-non-mind-controlled person to the forum.

'bad' (labelled by bible thumper) idgy


"just to ruffle their self righteous jesus feathers a bit..."


If that is not the pettiest thing I have ever read, I don't know what is.


It's also quite ironic since atheists are the most self righteous people out there, claiming that there is No Morality/No Sin/Everything Is Justfied/etc...


I'm getting so sick and tired of this Anti-Religious bigotry.


Save it, you're NOT special because you 'rebel' and choose NOT to be relgious.


You people really hurt your case more than you help it with your childish attitudes.
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:01 PM
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"just to ruffle their self righteous jesus feathers a bit..."


If that is not the most petty vain thing I have ever read, I don't know what is.


It's also quite ironic since "atheists" are the most self righteous people out there. Claiming that there is no Morality/Everything Is Justfied/etc...



I'm getting so sick and tired of this Anti-Religious bigotry.


Save it, you're NOT special because you 'rebel' and choose NOT to be relgious.


You people really hurt your case more than you help it with your conceited attitudes.
Conceited? I don't see how having no faith is conceited. We believe we are right just as adamantly as you believe you are right. Most christians I encounter are guilty of more bigotry than any atheist I know. I am just trying to live and I get called a heretic and a heathen and get told I'm going to hell. What really burns me is the religious freaks that try to drag my kid into it. That its sad her life is going to be so bad because she doesn't know jesus.
It is my opinion that religion is one of the greatest contributing factors to bigotry and violence throughout history. The Crusades anyone? The Inquisition? All in the name of god. The native people of this land were treated inhumanly because they were "heathenistic creatures". I bet it was a devout god fearer who came up with the idea to give them diseased blankets. All the missionary work that is done is done under the pretext of conversion. Make those poor heathens believe right? Their lives are better because you brought god into their lives? No. Their lives are better because you fed and clothed them. Christianity has striven to stamp out any culture that doesn't believe in the one "true god". Funny how so many different religions feel the same way about their god or gods. It all comes down to books. Writing. Which story people want to believe and they go to wars over this crap. I want to know when the Harry Potter religion starts, I think I might sign up.
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:19 PM
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It was wrong of switchback to use the kind of language to people who don't have faith.


Har1eyquinn,
I hope you will have a positive experience of knowing God.


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It was wrong of switchback to use the kind of language to people who don't have faith.


Har1eyquinn,
I hope you will have a positive experience of knowing God.


Love
I don't plan on having any experience in knowing god. I've read about the deity, was sent to church until adulthood and I still don't believe in any of it.
Thats what I don't understand about religious folk. Maybe you can explain it to me. I tell them over and over again I don't believe in god but they insist on telling me god loves me. I'm not comfortable with being told some make believe character loves me. Its kinda disturbing. Like being told a stalker loves me. I don't know the person, I don't plan on knowing the person. Like a friend trying to set me up on a blind date with the same person over and over again after I told them time and time again I'm not interested. I mean if I peppered ever post I made with "..and remember, there is no god." people would get offended but religious people will begin and/or end everything with "God bless you" or "God loves you". I mean there is god on my money, they make me swear on a bible and they make my kid say under god in the pledge to the flag, isn't that enough infiltrating into my life?
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Hello har1eyquinn,

I fancy myself to be a man of science, yet science has questions that appear to be answered only by the consideration of forces beyond our understanding. For example, physicists agree that the Big Bang resulted in the creation of matter and anti-matter in equal parts. Theoretically, this material realm, which we inhabit, should not exist because the creation of these mirror aspects of matter should have resulted in mutual obliteration. Physicist agree that a battle between matter and anti-matter rage at the dawn of creation but something unexplained tip the balance in favor of matter. Without that tipping of the balance, we and all that we know as material existence would not be. What was it that unbalanced the scales of material force in favor of matter?

In another example, physicist agree that our universe exploded into being from a point perhaps a small as an atom: nothing existed before that genesis atom? If nothing existed before the Big Bang, how did it originate? How did this genesis blast come from nothing and why? How does an atheist explain this connundrum of science?
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That's quite amazing what you just explained. I am dazzled

With everything so amazing, I got some more to proof what God thought when God made "us".

Kidneys are to kidney beans
mind to a walnut
heart to a mango
ears to seashells
limbs to sugar canes
shape of eyes to almond leaves
eyes to lychees
neurons to the tree branches
Mouth to sea port
Nose to Volcano
hair on skin to grass on the soil
blood vessels body to rivers of sea
Girls' face to Strawberries
Boy's face to Pineapple

That is quite a lot God had already when God made us.

Got anything to add :?
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That's quite amazing what you just explained. I am dazzled

With everything so amazing, I got some more to proof what God thought when God made "us".

Kidneys are to kidney beans
mind to a walnut
heart to a mango
ears to seashells
limbs to sugar canes
shape of eyes to almond leaves
eyes to lychees
neurons to the tree branches
Mouth to sea port
Nose to Volcano
hair on skin to grass on the soil
blood vessels body to rivers of sea
Girls' face to Strawberries
Boy's face to Pineapple

That is quite a lot God had already when God made us.

Got anything to add :?
What the? Boys faces and pineapples and strawberries and? I'm confused. I don't see how any of that proves the existence of any kind of deity.

As for scientific conundrum, I will never believe some mystical being snapped their fingers and made anything happen. It was a simple collision of atoms, thats all anything is. We are nothing but a bunch of atoms. Energy in a form. Nothing mystical created that. Things simply are, there aren't any bedtime stories to tell about how we came into existence. The right combination of chemicals and temperatures and elements combined and things started to happen. There is no reason for being. We trod through life looking for meaning but there really isn't any point to our existence. We just happened to luck out and wind up on the top of the chain. We just make what we can of it. Try to be successful and what not. Accomplish our own individual desires.
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