For the guys

[Imogen]

Hey there, This is puzzling me somewhat. To me, dreams are very feminine. They encompass intuition, myth, imagination, story telling, symbolism...you know, all the things I relate more to the feminine psyche. I see a lot of guys are on this site and I was wondering, do you tune in to the more feminine aspects of yourself when dealing with dream interpretation or do you approach it in a more analytical, logical and scientific way??? Anyone?

[Wolfjk]

Originally Posted by Imogen

Hey there, This is puzzling me somewhat. To me, dreams are very feminine. They encompass intuition, myth, imagination, story telling, symbolism...you know, all the things I relate more to the feminine psyche. I see a lot of guys are on this site and I was wondering, do you tune in to the more feminine aspects of yourself when dealing with dream interpretation or do you approach it in a more analytical, logical and scientific way??? Anyone?

Hi Imogen,
Dreamsare very personal and very private! Many of the symbolism one perceives in a dream apply solely to the dreamer. However the dreamer may share some of the symbolism with the close community he or she associates with.
Dreams are communications between the subconscious mind and the brain that can comprehend only when the level of consciousness is near waking level. Most of the dream consists of and concerned about raising the level of consciousness, therefore only parts of the dream is remembered. It is probable that only a small fraction of a dream is the command to the brain to do this or that.
The contradiction of feminin/masculin is only therein the dream to raise the level of consciousness. The meaning is hidden behind the character of the dreamer.
Cheers Wolfjk

[Jennings]

Being a guy who does not wear skirts, nor high heels, nor perms hair, etc trying to distinguish from my masculinity what might be a feminine trait is not possible. All the bodily parts I possess and how I feel about women convinces me that I am not a female nor am I feminine and anyone who wishes to make any contrary remark best be good at ducking! I have read about what psychologists describe as feminine traits and masculine traits but this is academic gobbledegook and not worthy of serious consideration; it is jargon to convince themselves that how they squander their time is worthy of a stipend and nothing more. The language of dream is predominantly allegorical and deciphering it is nothing other than being able to understand the meaning of the language and that is it; there is nothing intuitive nor magical about it; just another easily understood vernacular which either gender is capable of learning. My preference say, is to interpret dream rather than doing the Times crossword which I find difficult. Dream analyisis is one of my party pieces when the wider family is together; just an avocational pleasure and nothing more. There are those who believe in the puerility of demons and angels etcetera and have the audacity to believe they are adult and mature; 'gawd bless me old cotton socks' as we have to bear with them.

[MannyAnalogue]

Imogen

I'm a guy and intuition, myth, storytelling, imagination and symbolism is what I live for. Not every man walks by the scientific method, we have imaginations too mana.

For me the best part of dreams is the magic, logic and reason come in but in the end the dream is a message colored with the dreamer's imagination. Too much logic and theory can drown a beautiful dream sometimes, I think most guys enjoy the magic as much as the message.

I have a couple dreams that I like too much to put on this site actually, out of fear that a logical explanation will suck the blood out of it.

Hope this was helpful.

- Manny

[Imogen]

Thank you ALL for the responses. I particularly enjoyed your response Manny, I suppose it answers what was really puzzling me, that there are men confident and comfortable in their sensitivity. I suspected all the answers to be a bit outraged and manly.

[Jennings]

A feature the needs to be avoided by each of us is the self-actualisation of our own beliefs. Our subconscious is a powerfully creative feature that will produce almost whatever we wish to believe; it is a compassionate medium but can equally be destructive depending on our desires or fears; like an untrained dog it will take over one's life if allowed to do so and without our awareness. We need to keep tight reins on our emotions which controls the subconcious. Read Robert Bruce or Emile Cue.

[Imogen]

hmm,yes I can see how that appeals to you. In the same spirit, this is what I would be most comfortable with in terms of my own beliefs.
"In a single human being there are many other beings, all with their own values, motives, and devices. Some psychological technologies suggest we arrest these beings, count them, name them, force them into harness till they shuffle along like vanquished slaves. But to do this would halt the dance of wildish lights in a woman's eyes; it would halt her heat lightning and arrest all throwing of sparks. Rather than corrupt her natural beauty, our work is to build for all these beings a wildish countryside wherein the artists among them can make, the lovers love, the healers heal." extract Clarissa Pinkola Estes.
Take care

[Varzandeh]

Hi,
In my opinion the problem is not femisnist or manly the humanity is unique among men and women,

The rooms/13. O you men! surely We have created you of a male and a female, and made you tribes and families that you may know each other; surely the most honorable of you with God is the one among you most careful (of his duty); surely God is Knowing, Aware.

[Jennings]

Yes, I was about to say the same Varzandeh, that Estes's comment is not confined to women but being female she seems unaware of the male psyche which reflects my observation on not knowing how it feels to be female; how can I when I am a male. I can draw conclusions from observation but being male how can I be certain of female desires, needs, and thought processes; I can only guess and recognise that it never pays to be presumptious.

[MannyAnalogue]

Another interesting thread Imogen.

Happy to hear my response came across the right way.

I'm Puerto Rican, and my family is big on the macho philosophy so, when I read your post a small atomic explosion happened inside my head. At first I rehearsed an outraged and manly response in my head, but decided against it. Words like 'feminine' and 'sensitive' are a bit hard to swallow, but creativity and intuition are definitely feminine aspects. It's easy to get caught up in words and bias, but in the end I think most men rely pretty heavily on their 'feminine' aspects to get through each day. We're all dreamers whether we're sleeping or awake. I can't imagine life without imagination.

- Manny (manly and outraged)