Part I: Can dreams hurt you?

[deibi]

Has anyone experienced this before?

I'm 25 years old, male and I rather interested in occultism.

When I was young I dreamed I was being pulled at the legs and when I awoke I checked my legs and they had bruises. Often times I would have dream where someone would place or touch me in a certain part of my body and I awoke with the sensation in the area where they had touched. If I ever fall in the dream and awake just before I land on the floor or such I would actually feel impact as I awake as though I landed on the bed. One time I dreamned that I had said to an older man, "you don't know what they are doing to my head"; and when I awoke I was very dizzy and had a headache for a complete 5 minutes. Sometimes I would awake nauseated, but during these times I am in noway sick. Many times I would awaken from dreams very teary eyed as if something had affected me emotionally but I don't feel sad and tears would just run down from my eyes. I have had very intense sexual dreams where I would actually feel the person on me and I would be awaking slowly from the dream and get scared because I realize no one is in the room with me. When I realize I am dreaming I tend to push my self to the limits trying to control or mold things around me, (ex. I would try to levitate or move things with my mind.) but either i begin to awake because the dream makes no sense with my reality or I lose power (for lack of words) because I realize when i awake it won't be possible. (lol one time I was floating and fell.) Lastly, in some dreams my sight would blur or my eyes would actually burn. (I would awaken with my eyes feeling like this.) Oh and how come from very, very intense dreams the front of my head feels like it wants to explode?

What is the link between our reality and dreams? Can they effect our physical world? [Not going Matrix on you guys is just that I get kinda confused about all this.] Point me in the right direction, please.

[Wolfjk]

Originally Posted by deibi

Has anyone experienced this before?

I'm 25 years old, male and I rather interested in occultism.

When I was young I dreamed I was being pulled at the legs and when I awoke I checked my legs and they had bruises. Often times I would have dream where someone would place or touch me in a certain part of my body and I awoke with the sensation in the area where they had touched. If I ever fall in the dream and awake just before I land on the floor or such I would actually feel impact as I awake as though I landed on the bed. One time I dreamned that I had said to an older man, "you don't know what they are doing to my head"; and when I awoke I was very dizzy and had a headache for a complete 5 minutes. Sometimes I would awake nauseated, but during these times I am in noway sick. Many times I would awaken from dreams very teary eyed as if something had affected me emotionally but I don't feel sad and tears would just run down from my eyes. I have had very intense sexual dreams where I would actually feel the person on me and I would be awaking slowly from the dream and get scared because I realize no one is in the room with me. When I realize I am dreaming I tend to push my self to the limits trying to control or mold things around me, (ex. I would try to levitate or move things with my mind.) but either i begin to awake because the dream makes no sense with my reality or I lose power (for lack of words) because I realize when i awake it won't be possible. (lol one time I was floating and fell.) Lastly, in some dreams my sight would blur or my eyes would actually burn. (I would awaken with my eyes feeling like this.) Oh and how come from very, very intense dreams the front of my head feels like it wants to explode?

What is the link between our reality and dreams? Can they effect our physical world? [Not going Matrix on you guys is just that I get kinda confused about all this.] Point me in the right direction, please.

Hi,
I am nearly three times your age and started studying dreams in 1948!
Dreams are your guardian angels and far from hurting you they they look after you while you sleep!

When I was young I dreamed I was being pulled at the legs and when I awoke I checked my legs and they had bruises.

I had many times found scratches and bruises on my body when I woke. It is a disturbing experience, especially if you associate them with bad dreams. However as I got more lucid during dreams, I found that I was making the scratches and bruises. I also found that when I had a dream where I had an argument with someone and was very angry, I clenched my jows so tight that one of my teeth broke off!

I dreamned that I had said to an older man, "you don't know what they are doing to my head"; and when I awoke I was very dizzy and had a headache for a complete 5 minutes. Sometimes I would awake nauseated, but during these times I am in noway sick.

Here you can take it for granted that the dream was caused by you getting the headache while you slept and the dream woke you from sleep.
When you woke nauseated, the feeling came on while you slept and the dream woke you because it is dangerous to be sick while you are lying down. However the nausea soon goes off when you wake up and assume a vertical position.

Oh and how come from very, very intense dreams the front of my head feels like it wants to explode?

Here again the dream is caused by your headache and the dream wakes you because your head hurts and it is not the dream that causes your head to nearly explode but the migrain coming on while you sleep.
If you try to experiment and become lucid just moments before you wake, You may experience doing the movements you,re dreaming about.

I'm 25 years old, male and I rather interested in occultism.

If you are interested in occultism it is very likely that you selfhypnotise yourself in believing in it.
Perhaps if you stick to experimenting with dreams and trying to get lucid as soon as the dream beggins, and try to wake up before it ends you will find great insight into your own psyche.
Cheers Wolfjk

[deibi]

In many ways all you say can be truth. And is also truth that in the more I experiment i tend to evolve mentally an feel more energy. In most case the more I dream the less I become fearful of those certain nightmares that I may have. i'll just realize that, yes it is a dream and it happens when I sleep. But my dreams have also made it possible to accept the reality in front of me. I've become more aware of the physical world, while learning about both it's mental and spirtiual counterpart. Thank you very much for your reply...

[NIvekian]

Originally Posted by deibi

When I realize I am dreaming I tend to push my self to the limits trying to control or mold things around me, (ex. I would try to levitate or move things with my mind.) but either i begin to awake because the dream makes no sense with my reality or I lose power (for lack of words) because I realize when i awake it won't be possible.

It's not that "it won't be possible" per se` but COULD I ACTUALLY DO THAT?! In dreams, which I believe are astral travels, I know it's possible and am at ease with it, but in the physical plane...how much focus? How much energy?

Originally Posted by deibi

Oh and how come from very, very intense dreams the front of my head feels like it wants to explode?

My guess; Is it your third eye?

Originally Posted by deibi

What is the link between our reality and dreams? Can they effect our physical world? [Not going Matrix on you guys is just that I get kinda confused about all this.] Point me in the right direction, please.

I am not going to tell you that there are not malevolent beings that exist in the astral planes. If one is to believe in angels it only follows that daemons also inhabit our dreams OR that we inhabit worlds of spirits in our dreams.
The question isn't weather dreams effect the physical world but becomes, To what degree do dreams effect our physical world?
I personally have been injured in my sleep due to my astral dreams. Only once as far as I know. In the dream I encountered a three story daemon who was more into destruction than peaceable agreements. I remember that I had to fly up to talk to 'him' (angels and demons are said to androgynous) and while doing such it took a swing at me with a giant battle axe hitting me in my wing.(yes, I often have wing in my dreams for they are part of my astral body)
When I awoke it felt as if my shoulder had been broken or fractured. Knowing that there isn't much any doctor can do about such things I never went(that and I'm too poor for that sort of pampering). It took nearly a year before I could move it normally. None of this answers the question... does it?
I don't think anyone knows just how much our sleep experiences effect our physical world as it's very difficult to keep track of every persons dreams on the planet. Also it is hard to judge how astral/aetheric/non-corporeal beings effect our physical world due to our lack of either scientific means of measuring such a thing or our reclusivity of individualism, lack of communication about such matters and an indoctrination of disbelief and skepticism taught throughout most aspects of society. At one point in humanities history I think we had a better understanding of such worlds and now we have just myths and mysticism at odds with psychology....


Anyways, enough with the semi-rant, I hope it helps to have another point of view.




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[Walms]

Ah... dreams will hurt you psycally depending on yourself since the brain can mimic the damage done in the dream to the body, and welcome thats all I have to say <.<