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Old 02-08-2008, 09:38 AM
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A feature that is frequently overlooked about children, Messenger, is irrespective of how much or how little parents (or the education system) try to influence them they learn more from their contemporaries with whom they have to associate on their journey through life. Other generations, although they impact on them, are mostly inconsequential to their lives. The dramatist Shakespeare partly highlighted this feature when he spoke of the 'seven ages of man'. Depending on our social needs, what we are prepared to believe stems from this drive and is measured by our status among contemporaries.


The Seven Ages of Man

All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages. At first the infant,
Mewling and puking in the nurse's arms;
Then the whining school-boy, with his satchel
And shining morning face, creeping like snail
Unwillingly to school. And then the lover,
Sighing like furnace, with a woeful ballad
Made to his mistress' eyebrow. Then a soldier,
Full of strange oaths, and bearded like the pard,
Jealous in honour, sudden and quick in quarrel,
Seeking the bubble reputation
Even in the cannon's mouth. And then the justice,
In fair round belly with good capon lin'd,
With eyes severe and beard of formal cut,
Full of wise saws and modern instances;
And so he plays his part. The sixth age shifts
Into the lean and slipper'd pantaloon,
With spectacles on nose and pouch on side;
His youthful hose, well sav'd, a world too wide
For his shrunk shank; and his big manly voice,
Turning again toward childish treble, pipes
And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all,
That ends this strange eventful history,
Is second childishness and mere oblivion;
Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.
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Old 02-09-2008, 01:17 AM
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"is irrespective of how much or how little parents (or the education system) try to influence them ..."

Jennings you did it again! Completely on track (if I haven't taken you out of context). We can influence them to a certain point ... but with each child, this point is not the same as another. Yet at the same time, they can't and won't be a carbon copy of either parent or older generation. They live within their own generation.

Jennings do you have grown children? I ask because I'm interested if your children have dreams or other experiences that mirror yours to your knowledge.

Again, thank you for the added information for thought!

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Old 02-09-2008, 08:03 AM
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Yes, indeed, I have grown children (better say grown adults as they are in their 50s) and, even though I had three daughters, only one procreated so I have two grandchildren around puberty stage. The impact of the 'pill' has thrown the the natural sequence of generations (in space of time) out of kilter creating a wide gap between grandparents and grandchildren and my generation is the first to experience this and I find it sad. I guess the 'pill' was the first of a few other features which have impacted globally on society since WW2, the Internet being another.

None of my children are clones of myself nor of my late wife but each possesses traits of myself and their mother and their grandparents too, and in each of them the mixture is different. Somewhat paradoxically, some possess more of the bad traits while others have an abundance of the good traits so there is no way they mimic their mother nor I. We all tend to be a bit psychic and possibly hence my attraction to this site. When we gather together, which is not so frequently these days, I read any dreams that might concern them, and also read their hands and their tea-cups but we all share in those activities. My youngest daughter is quite an excellent healer. We do not exploit this but tend to keep the knowledge within our group of friends.

Obviously their experiences are different to those of mine but what interests me, not only in relation to my own family but to my siblings and also that too of my late wife's family, is how experiences replicate themselves through the family and through the generations yet logically there should be no cause for this to occur.

Equally, with advancing age, one witnesses the same experiences that the younger generations pass through which exactly replicates those of one's self. I do not know how best to describe this phenomenon but each stage in life brings with it the same challenges to which each of us has to surmount and with those stages there is the same intellectual and emotional input; each stage (or generation) seems incapable of learning (from a way that would bring about change to their circumstance) from the previous generations. Many do not recognise this but humanity seems to be encapsulated in a 'bubble' of ignorance out of which it never break free.
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