My own death

[theresa]

A couple of weeks ago I had a very odd dream, not the usual premonitions or precog events about some mundane stuff or the more serious ones that show someone I love in danger. I have waking visions as well. The stuff I dream usually comes about between 1 to 4 weeks after I dream it. The waking stuff, within hours or days.

To my surprise I had become the subject of one of my own dreams. I had a dream about my own death and the details seemed to be deliberately omitted. It was just so different than all other dreams. I was not given specific details about what happened, the when where how. The dream began with me standing on the top of a steep embankment, looking down at some kind wreckage down a hill in the distance and then slowly coming to think "am I in that?" I became to understand my body was in the wreckage and then asked rather casually, Am I dead? I got the sense I was standing on the edge of an embankment of some kind and then I put my hand through as solid rock or something like that and it went through it. Then rather casually I said, Oh, I am dead. I felt another presence there but have no clue who it was. I woke myself up but had no terror or fear.

I tried to blow it off as I have learned to do or end up going crazy trying to figure what is real or not. Someone else posted in this forum and used the term "cruel joke" and I have said that myself many times. I have deliberately tried to protect myself by limiting access to whatever causes these types of dreams from happening. In other words, I have shut some doors. I've done a good job, don't sleep too good anymore, but at least I have really cut back the number of dreams that are weird or concerning. The mundane stuff I don't care about and the really serious ones, I want to know about. The other weird stuff, I said good bye too. I guess you could say I began taking charge and choosing what I wanted on my dance card.

Anyway, about a week ago I got an email from my sister who lives many hundreds of miles away and she was worried about me. I had been planning a trip to the Smokey Mountains and was going to stop by her place and visit, she also lives in the mountains. My sister told me she had a horrible nightmare about me and that I was trapped and there was fire all around me, I was burned alive and my horrible screams woke her up. She also said it seemed like I was over an embankment but did not have the wheres or whys, but she did have the how.

This is even stranger, later she told the screams were not mine, that she had never heard me scream (I am just not a screamer) and that the screams were that of my deceased mother but it was me in the accident. My mother also had the gift, not as strong, and to my knowledge neither of my two sisters possess the gift (or curse deppending on how you look at it). I think my mother tried to warn me and I blew it off so she screamed at my sister.

I feel like I had the facts after the event of my death and my sister had the facts surrounding the event. My sister also did not know what I was in, only that it seems to be a vehicle of some sort. We had planned to drive to the Smokey Mountains from Texas. I cancelled my trip for now (also because we are closing on some property and the date got pushed back).

I had not shared the details of my dream with my sister when she shared this information about her dream with me. She had her dream about me before we spoke about my dream.

After my mother's death I had a dream about my mother regarding my sister. My mother never spoke in the dream but was following my sister around with a very worried look on her face, she then jumped in the car my sister was driving right next to her. She would not speak, just looked at me with great worry. I was talking to my mother asking what she wanted me to do, and she never answered, she just looked at me with those worried eyes. I emailed my sister who I had not spoken to in many months and she told me her doctor was trying to schedule her for some surgery and that she was uncomfortable about it. She was worried about it and was thinking of seeking a second opinion.

I have had precog dreams my whole life but wonder if my mother is now playing an active role in the warnings.


I cared for my mother before she died and the death experience is amazing. Hours before my mother died she started reading my mind. I was next to her thinking that my foot hurt again where I had injured it before and out of my mother's mouth came "oh your foot is OK". It was OK.

Starting the opening act of one of my dreams dead is a new one for me.

So folks, what do you think?

Theresa

[Jennings]

You do not leave any space for interpretation; you seem knowledgeable about your own psychic traits. There is no apparent underlying fears nor strong desires. If, indeed, your dream is predictive then regardless of what steps are taken to avoid the event, may lead to its happening. Have you thought of asking your 'friends' on the spiritual plane to ensure your survival?

To interpret this in the manner that I normally do, it would seem that the crash indicates a sudden change to your life's circumstances but it is not affecting you although involves you. It is something connected to you but at a distance and which implicates you. It seems to surprise you that you should be involved. It probably is something important to your life but not of your life (if this makes sense). While I recognise that your sister's dream and your dream seem to lend support to your dream yet, on the feeling level (only), I am more concerned about your sister than about yourself.

I recognise that what is said is not likely to relieve your concern which I share with you. I do hope that whatever transpires is not tragic. You have my best wishes.

[Wolfjk]

Hi Teresa,

Someone else posted in this forum and used the term "cruel joke" and I have said that myself many times.

Your subconscious is indeed playing a cruel joke on you by using your belief that you have some psychic power, and your dreams are precognitive.
Dreaming you are dead is a device the subconscious uses to wake you or move you from a bad sleeping position, wake you from a stream of negative thoughts, or wake you up when you experience some pain in sleep. However the subconscious uses measured scare tactics so you don' get frightened out of your wits!
You may think your dreams are precognitive, and many of your dreams may come to pass, however you must have thought of the thinngs before you dreat about them. If you carefully examine your own thought processes and be honest with yourself, i am sure that you will realise that you dream about what you contemplate in your daily life.
Regarding your sisters dream; I think she has her own worries to dream about!

she told me her doctor was trying to schedule her for some surgery and that she was uncomfortable about it. She was worried about it and was thinking of seeking a second opinion.

Her dream came about by wondering why you have not been in tauch with her for some time.
I think you can rest assured that your dreams are about what is happening to you in the sleep. Once you wake up dreams should be forgotten, however you are playing the cruel joke on yourself by believing you have psychic power.
Cheers Wolfjk

[theresa]

Wow, you guys leave no room for the possibility that there are things out in the universe that are indeed of spirtual nature and cannot be explained by a subconsious problem or a pain in one's sleeping position. These attitudes seem rather closed minded. Pity.

Thanks anyway.

[theresa]

Jennings:

I am very interested in what you were saying. Why should I be more concerned about my sister?

Some of the folks seem almost hostile about the thought of dreaming about something that may happen in the future and feel a need to make it something going on in my subconsious mind. There is not always a simply explanation. Somtimes it is what it is.

Please tell me why you think this about my sister.

[Jennings]

Theresa, I believe in predictive dreams but mostly find that it is only as they are happening or after the event that one realises their reality. If your dream is predictive, then there is nothing more that can be said about it; at least, not on the interpretive side. I looked for metaphors in your dream but I struggled to find any that could be used as the key to interpretting it. In the process I felt (feeling level only) both you and your sister became involved in an event but could not be certain what that was. You were present, or connected indirectly, but there seemed to be sorrow over your sister for which you felt responsible. Beyond that there is no more to add. I would like to have interpretted your dream but anything else would probably have been more like guessing which I seek to avoid.

[mythopoet]

Hi, Theresa,

In tending the soul of the dream apart from dream meaning, the dream-you asks, "Am I in this". The this is the wreckage (the wreck of the body), i.e. it literally.) There is an invitation to not posit this as a literal occurrence, which is the tendency of your preferred way of thinking about psychic life in that dreams are "meaning something". The dream suggests to you not to take this image outside the soul of the dream and here, in fact, your waking images play back into the enfolded soul the dream "dreams".

There is some question as to whose body is in danger. An oppositionalism sets up between the dream question and your sister's real body issue (her ? around her own surgery). Your sister's dream returns to the body image question in your dream. Is it your literally 'physical' body when it is your ('dead' and yet dying) mother screaming? Taken together and including the suggestion that it is your mother's body there but not really "there", the soul of the image (corpse) you are trying to tend seems to concern the abject body in its maternal function. The presence of abjection itself, beseeches and pulverizes the distance between subject and object, I and body and eye and body which causes their separation -their apartness from each other- to collapse. Abject body is that which does not ever part from you...even though you are 'as if dead' like in the dream.

Returning again to that moment in your own dream when the dream image of you asks in the dream its primary question; hang onto that thought and let me ask another. "Who is the subject of this (abject) body? By asking the question this way, you can begin to re imagine how to keep working the images of your dream as images eXpressing (X = an unknown content) into being and consciousness; it is your psyche's life at stake, not necessarily the lifespan of your body's life. You can, of course, turn your dream images in such a way to mean that. But, there is another way to take such images. Dreaming be comes no thing (soul) as it falls into conscious life.

Keep in mind the pivotal nature of the question about subjectivity in your dream. The subject of the dream cannot merely refer literally to you physically but to you in imaginal senses as well. Try taking your own imagining, "I wonder if my mother is playing an active role", 'as if'. Doing this could, through active imagining, 'play the image' actively allowing it to express itself to consciousness without having to behave it physically or fear it anxiously.

Here is 'me' playing the image:

"You" are located on the embankment and someone is now there besides "you" . Yet "you" are the dreamer who dreams this. There are a growing number of "yous" besides "you" now happening (a fragmenting narssicism). Each 'you' is expressing a loss whether it is dream or in the story sharing itself between mother and daughters. The image of the maternal body is as if a corpse, a cadaver (cadere, to fall). And the fall is from loss to loss to loss...until this maternal sense in body falls beyond its limit in the images of mother (origin). You are now tending soul where you are not. This is a primitive, archaic layer of psyche. It is pre-oedipal.

Your hand, laid deep upon the densest image of flesh (rock) pass through it. I am also reminded how the image "mother" represents what is most here and most absent at once. There is no ego here. You are in the realm before "I" was "made flesh" and while your own flesh was 'in-the-making.'

Bless,
mythopoet

[resin8love]

First of all, I can tell you are blessed with a gift. To dream of diying or being dead is not to be taken lightly. Your driving through the mountain range is of some importance. Those mountains are sacred to the native americans. If your ancestors are are part native then that would might explain how you and your mom got the gift from God. Life is fragile, but we are to live it and enjoy it why we are here on earth. Pray before you take your trip. You cant live your life in fear of anything, including death. Pray for your sister and the surgurey too, once you praed, that should ease your mind up. I prayed for you too.

[theresa]

Wow... ok. We are part native american and this is one reason I love going to the mountains and the smokey's in particular.

Well, I decided to have my husband's truck looked at again even though he had the breaks pads checked not that long ago, and the pads have always been kept in good shape. Unknown to us, the emergency break pad was worn which caused one back rotor to be be completely worn down to a point where it had to be replaced. The mountains in the Smokey's are very steep. That was an odd situation with the breaks, there was no indication of a rotor being worn completely down as my husband is very attentive to maintenace on his truck. I say better safe than sorry. I have other dreams I would love to share.

We decided to take our trip in the spring for a variety of reasons and I have had no further dreams. And I absolutely believe in warnings being sent by loved ones who have passed.

So my dreams are completely understood, I had the dream about my sister's surgery a couple of years prior to our planned trip. Her surgery was in no way related to current times. So there was abolutely no guilt or otherwise associated with the dream about my sister and my sister was not in the dream I had of my own death. I was in a dream she had about my death. Actually, I had no earthly idea she was thinking about surgery at the time I had the dream about her, she kept that to herself because she was unsure if she was going to have it.