Dragon Under The Mountain

[JON]

Last night I had this dream. It was another painting - a round one.

There was a three-peaked, snow-capped dark Mountain in the centre. The middle peak was the tallest. The Mountain looked symmetrical. It was flanked by

Left: A yellow [or golden] Sun in a pale blue sky with odd curly white clouds.

Right: A white [or silver] Crescent Moon in a dark blue sky, with odd asterisk-like Stars [same colour as the Moon].

The Sun and Moon had faces.

Below the Mountain was a large Cave. Visible as the base of the Mountain seemed to have been cut away. In this Cave was a large red, green and gold winged Dragon [looked a bit like a Chinese one]. Smoke curled from its nostrils [looked a bit like the clouds, actually], but no fire. It appeared to be playing with one or more balls or spheres covered in red, orange and yellow flames. No piles of treasure, though. And I think the Dragon was 'smiling'.

What does this mean? Any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers. Jon.

[joew2690]

Originally Posted by JON

Last night I had this dream. It was another painting - a round one.

There was a three-peaked, snow-capped dark Mountain in the centre. The middle peak was the tallest. The Mountain looked symmetrical. It was flanked by

Left: A yellow [or golden] Sun in a pale blue sky with odd curly white clouds.

Right: A white [or silver] Crescent Moon in a dark blue sky, with odd asterisk-like Stars [same colour as the Moon].

The Sun and Moon had faces.

Below the Mountain was a large Cave. Visible as the base of the Mountain seemed to have been cut away. In this Cave was a large red, green and gold winged Dragon [looked a bit like a Chinese one]. Smoke curled from its nostrils [looked a bit like the clouds, actually], but no fire. It appeared to be playing with one or more balls or spheres covered in red, orange and yellow flames. No piles of treasure, though. And I think the Dragon was 'smiling'.

What does this mean? Any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers. Jon.

Jon,

I have read numerous dreams of yours and I have yet to interpret one of them the reason being, I wanted to more or less think and pray about what to say and as you know I know no background of you so I am going to take a shot.

I feel as though you keep having these painting dreams is because I think not only because you probably like paintings and so on but I feel as though you should take up drawing or some time or art. If you already do then, you need to paint these, whether they are famous drawings or ones that could be yours I feel as though I should tell you perfection is not everything. So if you see yourself as not good or not good enough, I am here today to tell you that is not what it is about. It is about the enjoyment of it and the emotion and love you have for it.

As for the dream it seems to me that the detail in the dreams obviously shows some sort of passion in the painting. I also feel as though the 3 peaked mountains can represent something in your life but I cannot tell you what it is for I am not sure. However I believe the sun and moon are maybe showing the before and after hours of the day. Maybe they are representing your moods during the time. Also the dragon was probably smiling because he was having fun, just like you do while thinking about paintings and Medieval times.

[JON]

Hi joew2690. I've just posted a reply to you Q about my e-mail describing my problem. I think there's a bug somewhere in my E-mail account [maybe some part of the box]!

Thanks for your comments on my dreams.

I wanted to more or less think and pray about what to say and as you know I know no background of you so I am going to take a shot.

I agree it does help to know about the dreamer's background, yet there's usually enough to go on in what they saying in their posting. Vee and Licia25 don’t know me at all, but seem to have an 'uncanny knack' of ‘hitting the nail on the head’, as to my personality, from what I dream about!

Also the dragon was probably smiling because he was having fun, just like you do while thinking about paintings and Medieval times.

You deduced that I love Art. I do. I studied Art History 19th/20th Century stuff at College. Yet my favourite period is the 15th/16th Century. But my dreams also show I’ve got a very creative and visual imagination.

You also realised that I love History. Through my Education, I’ve studied most periods, but also out of pure interest. My favourite architecture is Medieval, mainly churches. I’ve visited loads of these, yet I’m not all that religious. It‘s the fact that they are a real testament to the craftsmanship and skill of those times. What those stone masons achieved with tools little changed in centuries. And the fact their faith drove them to create such amazing things for God.

My dreams tend to have a lot of Buddhist and Hindu imagery, - I lived in the Far East for a while. And a lot of my mother’s family was born or lived in India. It’s in my genes. I believe in Reincarnation, a subject I’ve only just started studying.

If I'm really stuck as to meanings, I consult a Dream Dictionary. Dreams have there own ‘language‘, it seems. I bought at a bookshop one a few weeks ago called 10,000 Dreams Interpreted. It’s by Pamela Ball, and was published this year by Arcturus Publishing Ltd. There is one on the Home Page of this Forum, but it's pretty basic. Online versions vary considerably in the detail of their interpretation. One of the best is at

Dream Moods A-Z Dream Dictionary

You can either use the A to Z letters, or type in a word in the long box. Then click the Interpret button and wait a few seconds. The search results are pretty good.

Thanks again. Cheers. Jon

[vee]

Hi Jon,
I really enjoyed envisioning the dream you had in my mind. To me it sounds like it would be a beautiful painting. Why dont you try painting that? It sounds so cool. Are you an artist? It wont matter if your not. Just go get a canvas at hobbie lobbie. Get some oil paints. Sketch it out first than dive in. Dont worry about mistakes. With oil anything can be fixed. It would be so cool if some of your vision dreams could be put to canvas. Let me know what you think? If you decide to do it and you like painting pretty soon you wont notice how awful your job is making you feel. (I read the box and window dream) Anyway, what do you think?
Just Me
Vee

[licia25]

okay jon, for now i'm going to post on the symbols of your dream.
first the sun and moon, the sun is a symbol of success, wellness, and relaxtion. The moon could be a symbol of love and romance but it can also be a symbol of uncertainty and failure. Also a mountain could be large obstacle you are trying to overcome. The dragon looking to be a chinese dragon could mean that it represents what the chinese see in dragons which is wisdom. there are three peaks to this mountain, three pertains to family (father,mother, and child) and it represents growth. But there are 6 main elements in this dream with is a number of balance and you stated that the painting is very balanced.
white is a color of purity and balance
silver is a color of spirituality
gold a color of wisdom and knowledge
yellow a color is a color of cheer and life
green is a color of renewal and new ideas
The cave is a symbol of deep desires and unexplored aspects of ones self, funny that a smiling dragon is in it in this dream,huh? Kind of blocking the entrance to the cave.
Some questions that arise from this dream would be:
Is there something(or someone?) new in your life that you are passionate about?
Do you feel that you are having to choose between something that you are emotionally attached to and something that is more reasonable based on the facts?
I will keep an eye on this thread, i'm interested to see where it goes
best of luck
keep me updated
-licia

[JON]

Hi Vee. I might have a 'visual imagination', and can easily 'envisage' what I want to paint or draw. But, sadly, lack the talent to carry out or 'realise' the 'visions' of my dreams. I found this out when I took Art at School. I got really frustrated, and my teachers became desperate! I couldn't master even basic perspective, or the concept of light and shadow.

My sister inherited the artistic talent. My outlet turned out to be Creative Writing. So I ‘paint in words' instead. And record my dreams in a rapidly growing Journal. I’ve found this Forum very good ‘therapy’.

A dream about the Mayans in my teens formed the basis for an Art Exam. I kept the sketches for many years, but now they’re sadly lost. Fortunately, my Journal recorded the textual version of that amazing dream. I’ve described that in my Past Lives posting.

The Art Room at School had a small reference library. From what I can remember, I’m sure that’s where I first encountered ‘Boy in a Cornfield‘. Or a painting very much like it. Whatever the work was, it clearly made a deep impression on me….

Which is a neat pun, as the picture is 'Impressionistic' in style. The colours used and their bold, but 'flat', appearance remind me very much of Van Gogh. But the technique is not like his, and more resembles early works by Claude Monet. Except for the boy, which is more reminiscent of the sombre figures of Edouard Manet. So, maybe, the painting is a 'composite' image of all their styles....

Thanks again, Jon

[JON]

Hi Licia. It’s interesting that yellow, green and white also appear in ‘Boy in a Cornfield’. My Bedroom is green, white and gold. And was inspired by the Dining Room in my ‘Past Life Dream’ about Isobel Rochard [posted in the Interpretations section]. Yet my favourite colours and tones are: blue [medium or dark], purple [deep], silver, white and black. My wardrobes is full of clothes of those hues. And I even have an umbrella with all those colours those on! What does that say about me, I wonder?

It seems the Dragon picture has mixed ‘messages’ for me. The painting does have great harmony and, I think, an overall sense of ‘joy’. I think you are right on the 3 peaks. It has a ‘familial’ feel - reminds me of the two Trinities in Christianity: Father, Son and Holy Ghost, and the Virgin, Joseph and Christ. You often see Trinity Windows in Medieval churches.

The mountain can be challenges to face and overcome. But as the clouds didn’t cover them they must be in ‘plain view’. And the Cave below could be ‘deep’ or ‘hidden’ ‘feelings ‘. I’m ‘passionate’ about quite a few things. And, yes, you are right, there is Someone Special! Although the Dragon appears 'happy', it is playing with 'balls of fire'. As you will have gathered, I say exactly what I think. At work that can get me into Real Trouble!

But I also sometimes find it difficult to ‘balance’ things in life. And can be very indecisive. But I’m also quite stubborn, like that dragon [and indeed, most of my family! Luckily, few dragons there.] And, once I do finally decide on a course of action, rarely ‘change my mind’ and/or ‘deviate’ from it…. Maybe that‘s what the mountain meant. ‘Rock solid’ views and ‘firmly-held’ opinions. Or just ‘unmoveable’.

Thanks for your insights.
Regards, Jon.

[Hermes]

Hi Jon,

a very interesting dream. Actually, this dream seems to relate to symbolism of alchemy, which popped up in the Middle Ages. The swiss depth psychologist C.G.Jung has studied alchemy extensively because he found the the symbolism coming up in dreams matches alchemical symbolism very often.

A sun and a moon with faces are a very common alchemical motiv, symbolizing masculine (sun) and feminine (moon) qualities, the opposites in alchemy.

A mountain can point to spirituality. Many mystics had their spiritual experiences on mountain-tops, and it is generally believed that there one can meet the Gods more easily than on other places.

The fact that there are three mountain-tops could point to three developed functions of your consciousness. Carl Gustav Jung found out that there are four basic functions, thinking, feeling, sensation and intuition, and we stepwise assimilate more and more of these functions into our sphere of consciousness.

The first three functions would seem to be integrated into consciousness, and the fourth function may be represented by the "dragon". The fourth function, in ALL people, tends to stay more in the unconscious and connects one to the inner realm. The symbolism of "three plus one is four" is very frequent in dreams, that three things of the same nature appear, and a fourth which is of different nature (here: the dragon).

The Dragon is of good spirit and could represent both your instinctual energies and qualities ("lizard") and also the transpersonal ones (it has wings, which point to spiritualization).

I would suggest you may indeed paint your dream, not for any artistic sake, but because this is something your soul seems to have on it´s mind, and when you pay attention to it and give energy to it, additional healing and "getting whole" processes can unfold.

Two very nice books which could be interesting for you are:

Robert Johnson: "He - Understanding Masculine psychology" (it´s also about "killing a dragon" or befriending it)

and

Robert Johnson: "Inner Work", which describes the technique of Active Imagination, a way to deal with one´s inner images and develop them.

All in all, a very fascininating and interesting dream.

Does this help?

Good luck
Hermes

[JON]

Sehr behilfich, Hermes. Danke schon, mein Freund. [I hope this is right, as my German’s a little rusty!]. I shall answer both your fascinating posts here.

1) The Dragon Dream

My knowledge of Alchemy is rather patchy. But I think the Sun and Moon and Stars also appear in Freemasonry.

Well, Moses went up Sinai to receive the Ten Commandments from God. I think that climbing Mountains can be ‘spiritual’ as well as ‘physical’ journeys. As both involve some kind of ‘discovery’ and ’exploration’.

I’ve noticed that Ancient Civilizations in relatively flat countries built ‘artificial mountains’ to ‘get close to’ their respective gods. The stepped pyramids [or ziggurats] of the Babylonians, Aztecs, Mayans, etc. With the ‘Houses of God’ [in Aztec Teocalli] at their summits. ‘Stairways to Heaven’, if you like. But the Egyptians never built pyramids for that function.

I read Carl Jung’s book on Signs and Symbols many years ago, so I’m rather ‘hazy’ on his philosophies. Yet Colonel James Churchward said a Triangle represents Heaven, the Trinity and God. A Square is Earth. Put four of the first shape on a base of the second shape, and you get the 'True Pyramid'. A ‘cosmic link’ between Heaven and Earth. A ‘Gateway’ for the soul of those kings once buried therein. Projected Heavenward by the capstone or apex. BTW, it has been proven that the so-called 'Stepped Pyramid' at Saqqara was once a 'True Pyramid'. But its mud brick casing has eroded away. So the Egyptians were building True Pyramids from the outset….

The saying goes that ‘things do come in threes’. The Three Magi are a good example. I find buses often do it, if you wait long enough!!

2) 'Past Lives'

The English call the technique ‘Regression Therapy‘. But, with my vivid imagination, and deep love and knowledge of History, it would be a little risky. Who knows what ‘games’ and ‘tricks’ my brain would play under hypnosis! This is why the title for that dream was rather a tentative [cautious] one.

Many thanks again for your thought provoking insights.
Regards, Jon.