Roses

[mwyna]

I have previously mentioned elsewhere here that I had a dream about a certain person from my past who had a heart attack. The next day I learned this person had a heart attack that night. However, unlike my dream, he did not die that night he died some few years later.
I had a dream some weeks after his death. In the dream, my phone rang, I answered it, and it was him on the other end. He said "Are your roses dead?" and then I woke up. I had planted rose bushes in real life some 6 months or so before then. I have always wondered what the dream meant.

[IrisRavenstar]

Hi Mwyna,

Roses are very spiritually meaningful in Judeo-Christian religions, with a close parallel to the Lotus in Eastern religions. They can symbolize both earthly passion, and heavenly perfection. It is perfection, the pleroma, completion, the mystery of life, the heart-centre of life, the unknown, beauty, grace, happiness. It occupies the central point of the Cross, the point of unity. Red and white roses together symbolize the Union of Opposites. The blue rose is the unattainable, the impossible. It can be a wheel, like a compass, signifying the four cardinal and four intermediate directions, so shares symbolism of the circle, the cross, the center, and the radii of the solar wheel. The Rose Garden is a symbol for Paradise and the place of the mystic marriage. In Christianity, the white rose is innocence, purity, chastity, the Virgin Mary as the Rose of Heaven. The Rose of Sharon is the church. In Egypt, roses were sacred to Osiris and Isis as symbolizing pure love freed from the carnal. To Greeks and Romans, they were emblems of Isis and Aphrodite. In the Hebrew Kabbalah, roses emanate from the Tree of Life. And so it goes... I can't type it all. My reference is _An Illustrated Encyclopaedia of Traditional Symbols_ by J. C. Cooper.

I had a long series of beautiful rose dreams a long time ago, when I first met my guide. I loved those dreams! One was of a window with a wreath of roses around the outside, and the window itself was round, and had four panes, with a four-equal-armed cross in the center. I drew that one in my journal. It was so lovely! Many cathedrals have gorgeous stained-glass rose windows.

So, hopefully, your roses aren't dead! Tend them well, my dear!

[Wolfjk]

Originally Posted by mwyna

I have previously mentioned elsewhere here that I had a dream about a certain person from my past who had a heart attack. The next day I learned this person had a heart attack that night. However, unlike my dream, he did not die that night he died some few years later.
I had a dream some weeks after his death. In the dream, my phone rang, I answered it, and it was him on the other end. He said "Are your roses dead?" and then I woke up. I had planted rose bushes in real life some 6 months or so before then. I have always wondered what the dream meant.

Hi,
Perhaps you should consider what dreams "do" insteadof what they mean! Dreaming is a vital part of life that keeps you asleep when you're tired and wakes you up when you need to wake up.
Your dream was simply a waking dream. The subconscious often uses enigmatic phrases or words to engage the brain. Unfortunately no one knows how the subconscious mind works or whether it is located out of space and time. One thing is sure; it is superior to the brain. Dreams are perhaps the best way to grasp how it works. However if you're looking for meanings and symbols you will be disappointed. They are sublime!
Cheers Wolfjk

[weiss]

maybe you werent very accustomed to people dying or this person was more important to you than most other people who had died, and so your mind was working through the issue of death. this could be your mind saying how beautiful things will fade and die.

[mwyna]

Iris, point taken thank you. I do tend my preverbial roses well though the physical ones, I have no idea what became of them. I think I will plant (real) roses again this year.
Wolf, I do agree and there is much we don't know or understand. Thank you by the way for not saying I had bad curry hah
weiss, the person in question was not a nice person at all though you are right I was not accustomed to people dying.

[IrisRavenstar]

Originally Posted by mwyna

Iris, point taken thank you. I do tend my preverbial roses well though the physical ones, I have no idea what became of them. I think I will plant (real) roses again this year.

Mwyna, I found these lovely little "faerie roses" in a catalog, and they are super hardy and don't require all the fuss of their big sisters, which are difficult to cultivate, as they are prone to every sort of insect and disease. The faerie roses even multiply themselves. I started with a couple of plants, and now have them all over the place, plus they bloom all summer long, and make lovely bouquets for inside with no allergic reactions on my part. You might like them!

[mwyna]

Originally Posted by IrisRavenstar

Mwyna, I found these lovely little "faerie roses" in a catalog, and they are super hardy and don't require all the fuss of their big sisters, which are difficult to cultivate, as they are prone to every sort of insect and disease. The faerie roses even multiply themselves. I started with a couple of plants, and now have them all over the place, plus they bloom all summer long, and make lovely bouquets for inside with no allergic reactions on my part. You might like them!

Thanks, do you know the name of them? Or are they just called faerie roses? They sound lovely and if they are able to grow here in the UK I will definately give them a go.
P.S. You have reminded me that as far as other things, I should cultivate that which mutliplies with ease, brings beauty to the mind and is free of disease. Thank you again

[IrisRavenstar]

Hi Mwyna,

The only name I know them by is faerie roses. They are prolific and lovely. I think a garden center where I found a white one called them a landscaper's rose. The ones I got from the catalog are all pink. But it seems to be the same plant. The flowers are little, only about an inch in diameter, but there are lots of them!

Originally Posted by mwyna

P.S. You have reminded me that as far as other things, I should cultivate that which mutliplies with ease, brings beauty to the mind and is free of disease. Thank you again

Awww, you're welcome... that's lovely!

You could plant some Lady's Mantle as well... it's said to serve as bathtubs for the faeries, and it's easy going too!