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06-10-2009, 03:13 AM
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"Green Mile" (crazy dream predicting a random conversation)
I know this is a lot to read, but it was longer and more vivid than most dreams I have & I wanted to be sure I included anything worth noting
-The first thing I remember is noticing a pack of Djarum Blacks (a brand of clove cigarettes) inside the china cabinet in the living room of the house I grew up in. Ryan & Rachel from work were having sex on the doorstep. Well, Rachel was doing most of the work w/ her back to the room as Ryan just layed or stood there cheerfully carrying on normal conversation w/ me (or "us", meaning there could have been others with me when I entered the room). Upon seeing them I was surprised and shocked (like "How did YOU get here & what on earth are you doing?"), but I guess not necessarily bothered, since I just shrugged it off when he started cheerfully chatting w/ me (I don't remember what was said, just had the sense of surprise, the sense that he didn't seem to think anything was unusual, and whatever he was talking about was just casual, cheerful, normal stuff like telling me about something funny that happened at work, or something of the sort) -Then I was (or "we were") out in the back yard (there was still the sense that I was around others & just carrying on normal activities/conversations) which was partially dug up by the "playhouse", just like it was once when I was young and we were trying to set a trap for our dog. I then noticed a GIANT black guy (looked like Ving Rhames, from the movie "The Green Mile) coming around the side of the house & got the impression that he was "after us". As before I was surprised to see such an un-expected character, and shocked/curious why he would be chasing us, but rather than being scared or running, & despite his size & threatening appearance I was confident & unafraid (didn't feel he had any right to be chasing us). When he got close I pulled a gun (which seemed to appear from nowhere and return to nowhere) & shot him in the chest. Noticing an odd, raspy sound w/ every breath he gasped for, I said something like, "I got you in the lung, didn't I? That's a fatal wound, you're gonna die." (not mocking him, just stating something he hadn't seemed to notice) So then he starts crying and whining about not wanting to die, and I start consoling him, saying something like "It's not like I've shot anyone before, or like I was intentionally aiming for your lung, I was just trying to stop you from chasing after us." The surroundings change to the house we moved to when I was about 15, and I'm have him lay down in the bed in my room (to try to rest & survive until the cops pick him up to take him to a hopital... and jail obviously), when the ungrateful bastard grabs me and starts trying to kiss me. As I'm somehow fighting him off I say, "What the **** is wrong with you? We're both men!" He says, "..and I'm the one about to do jail time." As I hit him in the face to free myself I say "..if you don't die first!" & rush out of the room, locking the door just as he slams into it, the cheap, weak door bulging from the impact (guess he got better). I start laughing like a maniac (NOW I'm mocking him) and countering his blows by slamming against my side of the door with both elbows each time he'd ram into it from the other side+. Whoever else was in the room with me is yelling "Are you out of your mind? That door's not gonna hold him!!!". I somehow knew his next hit would break through, so with only seconds I reach (beside/behind me) for a weapon, see that I'm holding my blowgun, and as he crashes through the door... (here comes the "glitch" Becoming lucid, perhaps?)... somehow I pass diagonally down & to the left: through the floor, the room below, & the left wall into the short hallway downstairs.. and somehow as my view shifts, I can see him in 2 places at once, charging through the door of the room above AND coming out of door at the end of the hall below (the door to the staircase between the floors)... Me AND him (at least the one downstairs) BOTH have blowguns somehow & are shooting each other full of darts as we enter the hallway. I realize that we're getting nowhere, so somehow I go back to the part of the dream where he crashes through the door, a sword appears in my hand this time instead of a blowgun, I stand steady & point it at the door, and he crashes through the door impaling himself through the chest (same heart/lung are as before, come to think of it), and the dream ended. ------------------------------- BASIC EVENTS & ACTIONS (All details removed. Did I do this right?) 2 people behave strangely, then someone else is pursued by a large person. The smaller one wins each confrontation, but the other survives and continues pursuing until the smaller one returns to a previous confrontation and uses a different approach. __________________________ IN REALITY I bartend at a restaurant/bar, Rachel is a hostess that's been there longer than I have (exceptionally kind, caring, genuine, & decent girl, NOT the type to be shamelessly having sex in public) Ryan IS actually her boyfriend in reality, & I met him later when he started working there a few months before having this dream. I always knew she had a boyfriend, so I always saw her as "off-limits", & the few times we talked it was casual and brief (I'm usually busy & rarely take breaks), & Ryan seemed like an OK guy, but I wasn't sure what I thought of him at that point (he has an unusual personality & sense of humor). I was surprised to be dreaming about them, because I didn't know either of them well enough for them to be crossing my mind. I only JUST remember that someone Ryan works/talks with once told me that Ryan said Rachel's a virgin, and said "For how long they've been going out, Ryan's GOTTA be getting laid on the side!" I figured it was possible, cause he doesn't seem to be the pro-abstinence-type, but they seem like a happy, couple so I figured "Who knows? She's a nice girl, so it would be a shame if he is, but maybe he isn't." & shrugged it off (I wish I had remembered this earlier, so I'd know if I was told this before or after having the dream, but I'm inclined to think it was before) -I don't know why I saw Djarum Blacks in the china cabinet, instead of the nicer dishes & silverware my mom kept there (for holidays or special occasions). I smoked cigarettes (tobacco) from when I was 17 till about 2 months after that dream, & liked the taste of clove cigarettes, Djarum Blacks especially, but I almost never bought a pack. For the most part, it would just be when out with friends at a party or social event, on the rare occasion that I'd notice someone I knew/met there that smoked them, I'd offer to trade them for one, simply because "it's been awhile". -It's strange how I just reached out of my field of vision (my right side every time, by the way) & pulled out weapons that I somehow just happened to have on me I guess. In real life I have a few swords on my walls as decorations, but I never use them or give them much thought & this is the only dream I know of that a sword has been in. Same for the gun and blowgun (the only dream I've had of either), except I don't own a handgun, & I do own a poor quality blowgun. I had one as a kid, so I bought one as a toy years later, & hardly ever use it except to shoot bugs that fly in the house...  During that period (before & after the dream) I was was sharing the house/rent with a friend that was in the process of getting his weapons permit & a gun while living there, so maybe that's where the gun came from.2 days after the dream, when I went to work I saw Ryan cheerful as always, & thought "Man is it amazing how accurately my brain painted every detail, though I never even gave this guy a second thought." When he asked & I agreed to help him do his side-work later that night, he starts telling me a story about some HUGE black guy he used to work with, that everyone called "Green Mile". I've seen many movies that Ving Rhames has been in, and hadn't watched or thought about that one in years, but when I saw this guy in the dream, BEFORE talking to the kid at work, that movie was the first & only movie that came to mind. My brother once told me the same story a long time ago before he moved away (he worked there before me), about some enormous cook that worked there nicknamed "Green Mile", so when Ryan said this it was kind of like a double-deja-vu. I'm not surprised when something from my waking life shows up in a dream, but I still can't figure out how something from a dream actually showed up in real life, or why it would be about something as random & seemingly pointless as a conversation about someone I've never even met? If there's anything I forgot to explain, let me know, and if this makes more sense to you than it does to me, I'd love to hear your thoughts. __________________________ Last edited by NfoJunkie : 06-10-2009 at 03:33 AM.     
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#3
06-10-2009, 10:29 AM
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Hi NfoJunkie,
I think you already understand this dream, really! Much of it is obviously precognitive of the next days events at work, and believe it or not, we do a lot of that in our sleep! I once walked into a parent/teacher conference, and she started talking about my son's report card, and I piped up and said I'd already seen it, and she looked at me like I was out of my mind, and then I realized I had *dreamed* the conference before hand. I believe that forgotten dreams are what is behind a great deal of "deja vu". When we remember them, they're precognitive dreams. They are more common than you know! In another of mine, I saw a woman dressed in a particular patterned blouse, her hair a certain way, and she was standing outside my front door, and one thing she said was, "I don't like her." I woke up startled because she was so vividly depicted, and said to my guide, "I don't know who that is!" He said, "You will!" A week or so later, a woman I knew on an email list, but had never seen or seen a photo of, asked me to a party at her house... she lived about thirty miles from me. I accepted, and said, hey, why don't you come on over for dessert and coffee this evening? So she did, and imagine my amazement when the person from my dream was standing on my doorstep, hair done the same exact way, wearing the same exact top! And during our conversation we were talking about a woman on the email list whom we both didn't like. Another time, I just dreamed the name Andrea, and heard it pronounced in a Spanish way... Ahn dray ah. Not Ann dree uh, as I usually would say it if I just saw it spelled out. A few weeks later I took a job as a library assitant, and one of my co-workers, one I liked a lot and had a lot of common interests with, was named... Ahn dray ah! We had a funny thing going, as when there was a library bazaar or cookie exchange, we always without planning it made the exact same desserts or crafts. Very weird! We got to where we had to discuss it ahead to avoid that. This happens to me all the time! The scenes with Rachel and her boyfriend seem to be you mulling over what you described later, and reminding yourself maybe that she is "taken." Sex also often denotes intimate communication. We use the word "intercourse" for both discussion and sex. You are observing that they are intimate with each other, whether or not sex is part of the picture. I love that the guy at work looked like the guy from the movie. I think if I dreamed that, I'd want to watch the movie and refresh myself on his part particularly. I haven't seen it in a very long time. I remember it was a prison film, and that's about it, really. I'm not really a Stephen King fan. I absolutely love precognitive dreams, but if you need a scientific explanation, I don't have one! I think they are pretty amazing though, and it's interesting to puzzle out what they have to say about the nature of our so-called "reality." Have fun with them!
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#4
06-13-2009, 05:55 AM
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By the way, I've never met the guy that looks like the character from the movie. I've just heard Ryan and my brother describe him & talk about him, because THEY both knew the same guy, though my brother hadn't seen Ryan in at least a year or 2, & I declined to mention that my brother had already told me the same basic story, OR that he was in a recent dream I had, having sex with his girlfriend (seemed more polite to keep my mouth shut, though on the other hand, if I HAD mentioned it, maybe more could've been learned from what he would've said next) As I've been reading/researching, I've been using the longer, vivid dreams I've recorded like this one especially (because it's one that undeniably carried over into waking life) as homework to try out the theories/ideas I'm presented with & remember them better. I just read a PDF about dream symbols, & since I saw just about everything from this dream as I scanned through the list of "definitions", I copied and pasted them in order... __________________________ SYMBOLS China Cabinet (Cupboards/Chest of drawers=need for review) Djarum Blacks (black=totality/need for wholeness) Ryan & Rachel (though Rachel wasn't involved in the conversation, & was just kind of there) sex = Desire for intelligent co-operation/Fear of domination door=Possibility talking = The need for communication dirt = Desire for strength/stability; Lack of Green Mile weapons = Protection/Need For chest = Honesty/Lack of can't breathe = Lack of personal power dying = Release, success, or fear of these talking = The need for communication bed = the desire to rest kissing = Need for strength/Lack,fear of running = Escapisim/Opportunity for door = Possibility elbows = Need for fluidity/Lack of weapons = Protection/Need For Descending stairs= a.The need to reach for the deeper implications b. A warning not to become retro-agressive going backwards (slipping back into old habits) time=Need for clarity on... weapons = Protection/Need For Chest = Honesty/Lack of I've gotten to know Ryan a bit better since then & now he stops by every now & then, & I do consider him a friend now, so maybe that's all it was saying, that he's an OK guy & I should talk to him more often. I will probably post a more recent dream next. I'm on the verge of a major decision to make for my life, so I should be spending more time on the more recent ones as they may be more relevant to my life right now.
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#5
06-13-2009, 09:07 AM
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Hi NfoJunkie,
I used to fill my journals with long lists of meanings for each symbol. Nothing means just one thing! But more than that, you have to examine them in context of the whole dream, and understand that the symbols affect each other, just as words in a sentence do, or words in a paragraph do, or words in a novel do. Longer dreams mean more symbols, more interplay among them. The meaning comes in context with other symbols, not by itself. Add to that the fact that dreams use a lot of puns and wordplay as well, and it can be tough to pull it all together and extract the correct meaning. But listing symbol meanings is a good way to start. I used to only write the dreams on the right hand pages in my journals, and then list possible meanings of the symbols on the left hand page. It really was a good way to learn it. It's nice that you and Ryan get along well now!
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#6
06-29-2009, 08:15 AM
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An attack by one of your spirit guides
dear writer: Looking into your dream I could easily see the black man you encountered was no mere mortal. There are very few mortals who can bi-locate to two or more areas at once. Secondly mortals who have been badly wounded rarely spring back into action. This leaves two distinct possibilities: one is the being you had encountered was an exterterristial, the second one is that it was a disembodied energy that took physical form to prepare you for a future event. What is known about exterterristial encounters is that both human and exterterristial have a pouring out of dmt di-methyl-triptoline from their brains, which immobilize both of them and render to both a telepathic state of communications. Instead of deer in auto headlights its a human in an extraterristial presence. In short you wouldn,t be pulling out any weapon if you encountered an e.t. presence. So I think we can safely say this black man which was really a diembodied spirit guide made a theatrical performance to prepare you for the future.During this staged performance there was a lot of weapons action whose purpose was to validate the manhood of both parties. The only aggressive move this spirit guide took against you from what I can see was to kiss you. Your reaction to that move was to attempt to put him down again. I hope you are laughing by this point, because the meaning of the dream is pretty transparent to me. Not only did your spirit guide break down the door, he amplified his powers by bilocating. The message in all that is that youcan run, but you can't hide. It would appear you are hiding something from yourself and your spirit guide is trying to point that out to you. O.K I'm predjudiced. I'm a gay male 67 years old and one of the things I do for my community is to be an advocate for late teenagers who are just getting out in the world on their own. So I'm pretty familar with their mores and culture. I watch them shake hands in the approved manner, which like your weapons experience validates the manhood of all parties concerned. A part of me wants to yell out "hey, how about hugging your male friend", that would make a real statement better than the validation of masculinity handshake. Well sir your spirit guide is sending you the same message. If you are going to make a genuine statement from your heart in regards to Ryan, you may be called to kiss him to get that statement across. Because if you don't find the courage to let your feelings out, you and your spirit guide will have engage in a lot more theatrical performances. Which in my opinion would be a terrific waste of energy. I have so much fun with you, you bring out a sense of humar in me thats been on vacation for months.
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#7
06-29-2009, 06:34 PM
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IrisRavenstar
I've been planning on getting a better folder to record dreams and customizing it so I have room to add notes, list of symbol interpretations, even probably with a calendar listing the days & times mentioned in Varzandeh's timetable (after converting from from a Persian calendar), so I can take note if more significant dreams tend to occur on these days. I've still been considering that I could do the same sort of thing on the computer typing faster than I can write upon waking, but getting out of bed and staring at a bright screen tends to wake me up a little more & makes it harder to go back to sleep. I'm sure when I have all 3 options at my disposal I'll discover what each method accomplishes better than the others & will find a proper balance. I haven't yet recognized many puns or wordplay in my dreams, but I'm keeping an eye out for them since not just you, but Jung & Freud & others even all seem to agree that dreams often communicate through puns and cultural wordplay. KarmicResponse, IrisRavenstar, & anyone else reading, More "theatrical performances" & strange dreams like this would be great to have, especially if they appeared un-deniably in real life later, like this one did, but this was a year or 2 ago and none of these characters have been in any other dreams before or after that one. I wouldn't even consider hugging OR kissing Ryan in real life & in the dream I highly doubt that I was supposed to let Green Mile attack or kiss me, simply because that's not me at all or how I think and doing such a thing would contradict who I truly am. It's never been uncommon for me to dream of villains, ghosts, evil magicians/creatures, even evil un-dead children chasing me. What's changed through the years is how long or even IF I run from them. Years and years ago I used to always spend the whole dream-time trying to escape and only in recent years (beginning around or before the time of this dream when I started actively solving my problems & giving up vices) have I found myself saying "Why run?" & facing/defeating the villain. I think IrisRavenstar is right about me understanding at least the first part of the dream about talking to Ryan well enough, but most of the dream was about the Green Mile & it was his significance I was still uncertain about. I parted ways with many old friends around this time because we had little in common anymore, though the really bad ones that used me, stole from me, and caused me only grief always tried to come back into my life, and some still try, feed me a load of crap, expecting me not to notice they only come back around when I might be of some use to them & their habits. In a nutshell maybe the dream was saying first that since I'm looking for new friends and people to hang out with that I have more in common with, perhaps I should try getting to know Ryan a little better, then saying that old villains would still come for me, but now I can see and point out what they can't tell is obvious ("you're dieing"). I can explain and try to help, but they will still be villains, & will still either get nowhere or will ultimately be defeated by the force of their own wrongful pursuit & impositions. Still I only consider this one possible meaning, as I also consider the possibility of shared dreams, and maybe he also dreamed of the Green Mile which is why he mentioned it, and since I didn't say anything about my dream, he didn't say anything about his (if he really had a similar dream). I know Ryan's always talking about going fishing & I've recently been thinking it would be fun to get out & do something like that, & since there are quite a few others I work with that seem like very decent, interesting people, that it might even be a good idea to check & see who would be interested in getting together at a field or even the beach every weekend to play soccer, volleyball, football, anything, just have fun & get to know each other better. I might do that. I've been bored and in need of some exercise on my days off.
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#8
06-29-2009, 07:03 PM
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Hi Nfo,
I think the Green Mile being a prison story speaks volumes about you breaking free of things that imprisoned you! Very good... you seem to be using your dreams really well! I handwrite my dreams in a journal as soon as possible, when Lily allows, and often walk around the back yard repeating them to myself while she goes potty, so I don't forget before I get back inside and have a chance. Often I'll also write them in my email, and email them to my own closed yahoogroups list. The process of typing them in often helps me recall a lot of details I'd forgotten or skimmed over when writing by hand. There seems to be an ebb and flow to my dreams, but I've never been able to relate it to the calendar, or lunar cycles, or anything like that. It seems more related to what's going on inside of me! I also think that it's good you are trying different ways, and that you will find what fits you best. The thing with puns and wordplay is that it may also depend on your dream source, and if some of the dreams are from guides who love that kind of thing, then you'll get more of them. My guide has fun with it, so I do as well! I've always been a bit of a wordsmith though. My parents, who did not graduate from high school, could not keep up with my demand to know what words meant, so bought me a huge Webster's Dictionary at a very young age. It served me well, as it's also a favorite dream tool. Beach plans sound like fun! I used to love hiking, but sadly had it curtailed until I can make this fibromyalgia go away! I'm supposed to heal these things myself, and I'm working on it! One of my lessons... Well, take care. It's time for me to play with Lily and watch some tv for the evening. You all dream well!
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