Are our dreams created by a sentient species?

[wowo]

I am requesting consideration of well crafted dreams, and publication of the problem this suggests. It is my belief that some of our dreams are crafted by sentient beings and are not random products of our minds. Consider your most vivid dreams and the imagery in them and ask yourself if the imagery and plot of the dream seems crafted or randomly produced. Dreams created by random unintelligent brain activity would be meaningless and would tend not to have well crafted imagery or a plot. Also consider at what age you started to experience dreams, would the dreammaker have had time to learn the craft of creating well drawn imagery and control of thought if you were born with a piece of your brain detached as a separate person? If crafted dreams were experienced at a young age then one would have to assume that we are in the presence of another sentient species. In any event the consistent witnessing of well drawn imagery with adept control of thought suggests a species experienced in the particular art of dreammaking. At this point you may have to change your mindset. Minds can balk at new information. If there seems to be no explanation to your dreams but that they were created consciously then you should mentally note that dreammakers may exist.

I myself am witness to well crafted dreams experienced at a young age and will assume here that 'dreammakers' exist. I do not know if dreammakers reside in our brains, or have access to them through knowledge of our neural code and reside in some other computational material. The possibility of synthetic telepathy needs to be considered as well. In any event I am witness to the fact that some dreammakers/telepaths can become criminal. This can result in nightmares, unwanted voices of mysterious origin, induced delusion, death, and unwanted criminal use of ones body, amongst other acts. I believe our criminal justice systems are largely blind to the problems of criminal acts committed while being intentionally deluded and criminal acts being committed through unwanted use of ones body. We also lose our privacy and intellectual property. I myself am misdiagnosed as insane and believe many others are as well. I believe that many people throughout the ages have falsely believed that they were demon possessed. For these reasons your help is requested. I believe that as a society we need to invest more in functional imaging of the brain and study of neural code. We need to use the tools developed to study the minds of those misdiagnosed as insane. We need to develop tools that can deliver justice within a brain and study other computational materials that could support intelligent life.

Please take the time to consider your most vivid dreams and ask yourself wether you think they were crafted or randomly produced. If crafted seems the only explanation, consider wether you can rule out having been born with pieces of your brain detached and thinking on their own, by way of wether you experienced well crafted dreams at an early age. One can also consider the overwhelming amount of witnesses who have experienced well drawn imagery and control of thought, suggesting a species adept at these particular arts.

I believe many dreammakers/telepaths are harmless as well so please don't rush to judge them. Some may be are ancestors as well.

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[Steven L Childs]

I am convinced that some of our dreams are crafted or created by an unknown and very intelligent agent or entity or perhaps race. In fact this is the theme of the famous book and movie "2001 A Space odyssy" by Aurthor C. Clark. The religious view is that visions are given by God. I hope to see great investigation into this idea of a dream creator. Imagine the possibilities.

[wowo]

Another thing you can ask yourself is wether the control of your thoughts matches the imagery. Again, that would seem unlikely if dreams were randomly produced by your brain, why would our brains have us acting out plots(stories) this way. Looks like there are lots of witnesses here to something that the scientific community isn't stopping to think about...

[Varzandeh]

Hi,

I want to tell you a reason to know that 5 senses can't understand anything except by the soul,
Have you dreamt you were eating and drinking and had pleasure of that. He said yes. I said: have you dreamt laughing and crying, and strolling in the cities that haven't seen yet but you know the specialties. He said: yes dreamt very much. I said: Have you ever dreamt about your dead brother or father and know them like they are alive.
He said: yes too many times. I said: tell me which sense has received such things to see the dead and talking to them or crying and laughing. He said: I can’t say which one. Because the body is slept like a dead. I said: tell me when you wake up don’t you remember and report to the friends exactly, He said; yes and sometimes I see that before night in real life. I said; which sense keeps it to remember the dream after waking. He said; there is no way for sense. I said then you should know because senses are vein here that is the soul that God has put wisdom in it and it is a reason. He said; what I dream is like mirage one thinks it is water but when arrive at there is nothing. I said; how do you say it is like mirage and you ate sweets and pickles and were happy and sad he said; because what I dream when I arrive at it is nothing. I said: have you ever had sex in the dream and your hearts beat, have you ever had wet dream about a woman or man. You know him or don’t know He said many times said had you orgasm and when you woke up you were wet then this is not mirage.
He said: dreaming orgasm is just like the real life .I said this is my reason that soul. Knows everything although senses are dead and can’t see or hear of course you shouldn’t deny that soul in addition of the senses knowledge recognition in the waking life and after vanishing the senses has sex with them then it recognizes the things after going senses and now you understand that the itself is guiding the senses and is their governor and none of the senses can’t do anything without soul; if the soul goes a head body wasn’t get back and if soul gets back the body won’t go ahead with the soul the happiness comes and with it the ache is received if a sense is damaged the soul is remained but if the soul is damaged senses can work properly.

[wowo]

Thanks Varsandeh, it's always good to hear from people on the other side of the world. Anyone got any more ideas on how to test for intelligence in our dreammakers? And prove it to the scientific community?

[Wolfjk]

Originally Posted by wowo

Thanks Varsandeh, it's always good to hear from people on the other side of the world. Anyone got any more ideas on how to test for intelligence in our dreammakers? And prove it to the scientific community?

Hi,
Get real ma! Your dreams are created by your own subconscious. However it is far more intelligent than your conscious self. Look how it can fool you!
If you look at your dog, cat, cow and many other animals, they dream exactly like you do. Dreams keep you alive and wake you up! They are nothing more than a vital bodily function.
Cheers Wolfjk

[The Exile]

our dreams are created by sentient species - us.
but i think we have access to more other worlds than we realise. consensus reality heavily chains most people to this world, but the part of the brain we use for dreaming is more free from these chains. the dream still might be more than just an indication of our situation in the mundane world.

[wowo]

In case after case on this site you'll see evidence of people living out 'movies' in their dreams. Their thoughts are controlled and they experience well drawn matching imagery. Why would the control of thought match the imagery so well? Isn't that a sign of intelligence? If our unconscious mind is born more intelligent than the conscious part then even that would contradict the theory that our dreams are created by random unintelligent thought, which as I understand it is the common scientific perspective. We would need to be born with a piece of our mind instinctively capable of creating imagery and matching control of thought for the common scientific perspective to hold. How would that piece of brain tissue know how to match the imagery and thought control?

[Wolfjk]

Originally Posted by wowo

In case after case on this site you'll see evidence of people living out 'movies' in their dreams. Their thoughts are controlled and they experience well drawn matching imagery. Why would the control of thought match the imagery so well? Isn't that a sign of intelligence? If our unconscious mind is born more intelligent than the conscious part then even that would contradict the theory that our dreams are created by random unintelligent thought, which as I understand it is the common scientific perspective. We would need to be born with a piece of our mind instinctively capable of creating imagery and matching control of thought for the common scientific perspective to hold. How would that piece of brain tissue know how to match the imagery and thought control?

Hi
This is a reply to another poster but it also applies to your question:Quote:
"I could break down the dream into it's quantum elements, but it would not tell you the cause. It would indicate that you needed a lot of energy to raise your level of consciousness to where your brain could remember the dream."

It is not easy to explain, but I will try!
The physical body needs a constant supply of energy, which we get from the food, water and air supply. The fire is always burning!
Our spiritual side also needs a supply of energy to keep up and raise our level of consciousness. We think make decisions, know what is going on around us, we sleep and wake up. All these activities need energy, but a different kind. It is almost imperceptible.
The spiritual side of our being is still subject to the laws of the universe, especially to the Laws of Thermo Dynamics so there is nothing supernatural about it.
The quantum energy we use to raise and maintain the levels of consciousness are; light, colours, heat, ideas, concepts emotions and many many more. The level of consciousness is constantly changing! It fall naturally as our mental activity lessens and needs a constant input of interests and activities when we're awake, and a constant flow of dreams while we 're asleep.

Quote:
The view never goes above their necks. They're all dressed in plan casual clothes, all faded half-colors. All of a sudden a brilliant white light flashes through, in a quick stream. Their bodies are cut at the waist. I see different people falling in slow motion, separated from their other halves. Where blood and wound should be stayed the white lights.

If you look at the above quote, you will see what I mean by quantum elements: the colours the light, the strange ideas! All these serve to raise your level of consciousness! It is the way the subconscious mind engages the brain.
This activity goes on ubequitously in all our dreams. It is the mechanics of life, consciousness and waking!
Cheers Wolfjk
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Dreaming is a vital function of life

May I add that your physical brain has a memory bank, not dissimilar to a CPU and your subconscious has access to all of it at any time to create the dreams that keep you alive while you sleep!
Cheers Wolfjk

[SkyEye]

Ppl , please remind youself`s that Einstein used 15% of his brain ...pls keep that in mind :P And he created a lot of new theory`s that changed the world of physics !
And in addition , there have been DOCUMANTED < FILMED < SCIENTIFICLY PROVEN acts where the brain INDUCED FIZICAL pain on the body without an exterior factor !!! It harmed itself because it BELIEVED there is an exterior factor , without it actually existing ! ( ex. the blinded man telled that a burning coin is beeing applied to his body , a coin is applied but at normal temperature , but there are burns on his body afterwards , after the coin is removed . ) .

And dreams are not make to wake us up !!!! There is a separate sistem in our brain to wake us up cuz if it didn`t exist , we whould have died dreaming !! There are a handfull of people that would chose to live in the real life rather than dreams , the rest of us whould have just chosed the dream and keept dreaming till death .

I don`t doubt that if we used 100% of our brain , we could grow new limbs or cure ebola like it was the common flu with our brain power. I think religion exist just to develop that part of the brain . ( when we ate that apple in the garden , we gained ALL of the knoledge , but because it was too much , god locked a BIG chunck of it away in our heads . I allso belive that all god`s preachings , bible , testament , 10 commandments , are made for the understanding of the people in that era ! I doubt they would understand if he told then not to mess with dna , brainwaves or EMP`s :P And since God is a bystander in our evolution as a species , he coudn`t have teached us what thouse things were :P So he just improvised for that lvl of scientific understanding and metality . ( my belief is that a few millenia ago , god , an alien spiecies , passed thou our sistem , found our planet booming with life but no inteligent spiecies . He genetically improved one of the spiecies , given it inteligence and at fist put it in a cage to be able to control all aspects of the enviroment . But the "lab rats" chose to go out uf the cage my downloading all the knoledge . god understood that he can`t controll all the inviroment so he let them loose on the planet , but not before he locked allmost all the knoledge in our brains . When we were on the werge of wiping each other out god felt ( and is ) responsible for us and interviend creating a merger between his existence and ours , to better understand us and buide us thru him . Heh , that`s my conclusion after observing this world ( scientificly and religiously ) . Offtrack , rewind.

But i do think dreams cover up something . Like when you play a game and in the backbround a download starts , you aren`t aware of it and you keep on playng . I think dreams are created to distract us from that something .

If you want to develop a disscusion on any of the themes above , prieten001@yahoo.com is my email .

Hope i didn`t took to much of your time