A lifetime of dreams.

[1979]

Hi, I'm new. I'm trying to find help understanding what goes on in my head at night.
Let me introduce myself, perhaps it will help with any interpretation. I'm a 28 year old male of rational beliefs, normal social habits, and agnostic religious stance.

Right, where do I start? With the reccuring dreams I suppose...

Fisrt one: I have had this reccuring dream since childhood, although its frequency dropped off overnight some years ago, and has diminished to almost zero now. I always used to dream about planes crashing; big planes, small planes, crashing into the ground, crashing into buildings, crowds, empty lakes, crashing near enough that i feel the burning heat of the explosion and dive to take cover, and far away so that its just visible. In a couple of the dreams I have been on the planes.

Second one: This one started more recently, perhaps 2 or 3 years ago, and has various guises. Characterised by mass public panic, I dream that the earth is being attacked by aliens and visions & Aparitions in the sky. Only it is not really being attacked, if that makes any sense. Spacecraft, stars, figures, creatures swoop out of the sky, and the sky itself turns into some kind of warped light show. People are running around panicking, crying in the street, fighting, coweing in terror. I am telling them all that they are being tricked, that there are no aliens etc. I am unable to convince anyone but my girlfriend, and we retreat with our 'son' (We do not have any children in real life!) and hide underground.
We hide out for the night and return in the morning, to find that most people are gone, and the army/police are rounding people up. There are no signs of aliens or any other aparitions. the dream always ends at that point.


Some other dream related stuff that I should add:
I can recall thousands of dreams that i've had, since about the age of four. Is this normal?

I have sleep paralysis quite regularly.

I have lucid dreams quite often, and enjoy them on the whole...apart from one: my girlffriend died in a dream before it became lucid, and when it did become lucid I destroyed the world becasue i was so angry. I woke up and had an out of body experience upon waking up. is this weird?

I have died in dreams a few times. This doesn't happen often, but sticks out in my memory.

Hopefully I havent waffled too much, and I look forward to reading any feedback, or from anyone who's had similar experience. Cheers.

[Jennings]

Firstly, let us get rid of a couple of points you raised. Paralysis is sometimes the precursor to lucid dreaming and it is not unusual but to have it frequently could be.

To recall so many dreams is not unique but it is unusual. Most dreams are of a transitional nature and when life circumstances move forward for the dreamer the dreams are mostly forgotten; to recalling so many does appear to be unusual.

Lucid dreaming is something that many experience and OOBEs appears to occur to some but is less common.

The themes of the dreams that you have described have the common thread of apprehension or fear of pending disaster. Those fears are usually the sign of violence, not necessarily having experienced but having witnessed, and probably on a frequent basis. They would indicate that violence, probably due to irrational arguments, posturings, and threats, may have been part of your early life background but no actual physical harm seems to have occurred, just possibly, emotional blackmail. Scenes like this would have imprinted themselves on your emotions which would be reflected in dream. The dream here being like a mirror to your life. The changes to your dreams would be due to maturation and becoming more self confident yet still harbouring those early life insecurities. It could be that you have taken those behavioural traits that you witnessed with you into adulthood.

[1979]

Hi, and thanks very much for your input. I had no idea that the things I experience were particularly unusual, but to be fair I just don't talk about it as a rule...only to my other half, and then its only about some of the experiences.

This is what baffles me about the second reccuring dream. A dream like that would logically mirror trauma in earlier life as you say. The thing is I had a great childhood, no violence, or threats thereof, just lots of typical boyish things like football, fishing, and mischief, which all made for an optimistic outlook on life.

I've given it some thought over the weekend, focusing on 2 angles. The first one, that I had a son in the dream, and my feeling was to protect my family. Could this signify apprehension about the future?
Also, the fact that in the dreams, the attacks and apocolyptic scenarios are always an illusion being perpetrated by an unseen power.
I am generally distrustful of institutional authority, so perhaps this aspect is a manifestation of this distrust? What do you think?

Cheers

[sailrmc]

Hello 1979,
There is nothing abnormal about what you have said. You and I have something in common. I too remember thousands of dreams, vividly (many since my childhood). Perhaps this is why I am so involved in dream analysis and have been since senior year in high school, through college and many years since.

I am going to copy and paste your post and comment in blue.

Hi, I'm new. I'm trying to find help understanding what goes on in my head at night.
Let me introduce myself, perhaps it will help with any interpretation. I'm a 28 year old male of rational beliefs, normal social habits, and agnostic religious stance.

Right, where do I start? With the reccuring dreams I suppose...

Fisrt one: I have had this reccuring dream since childhood, although its frequency dropped off overnight some years ago, and has diminished to almost zero now. I always used to dream about planes crashing; big planes, small planes, crashing into the ground, crashing into buildings, crowds, empty lakes, crashing near enough that i feel the burning heat of the explosion and dive to take cover, and far away so that its just visible. In a couple of the dreams I have been on the planes.I get the idea but no context to draw upon so I will just say that the planes are in general a standard created by the subconscious mind to show you you are doing at a particular time in your life, with relationships, risk, general anxiety about interaction with individuals that might have associations with or had met. Different experiences represent different things that you were going through and how you felt about them. When it might have been difficult to land, it could very well depict the difficulty that you had in achieving a specific goal...falling is often anxiety or a fear of failure... where as a planned trip would tend to show autonomy or attempts on your part to achieve independence...a private plane, indicates personal endeavors, ones that you may not wish to share with friends or family etc.
In this case what you have experienced is a barometer type dream and not one that could be called recurring. In this type of dream your mind establishes a was of conveying messages in a way that you responded or paid attention....so it stuck with this type of recurring background or theme (and the details change).

Trama is experienced by all, in some way or another, starting from the trip down the birth canal (many dreams I have seen, even detail childhood birth problems) even though it is may not be remembered by us it is recorded trauma and shows up in some dreams. Sometimes trauma may not be the order of the day but awareness is doled out. This gives the dreamer a perspective that would not receive unless he experienced it in real life. The mind creates situations to allow for awareness and these dream experiences translate in to the creation of balance and understanding, even though the dreamer may not have experienced these things in real life.

Second one: This one started more recently, perhaps 2 or 3 years ago, and has various guises. Characterised by mass public panic, I dream that the earth is being attacked by aliens and visions & Aparitions in the sky. Only it is not really being attacked, if that makes any sense. Spacecraft, stars, figures, creatures swoop out of the sky, and the sky itself turns into some kind of warped light show. People are running around panicking, crying in the street, fighting, coweing in terror. I am telling them all that they are being tricked, that there are no aliens etc. I am unable to convince anyone but my girlfriend, and we retreat with our 'son' (We do not have any children in real life!) and hide underground.This type of dream is often one that accompanies major changes that you experience in real life. Often when the end of the world is shown (or death of characters in mass) the dream is depicting the end of a particular time in life that leads to a new phase (so often dreams of mass tragedy, anxiety, and death are soon followed by dreams that symbolize a rebirth of sorts...a new way of life that you are entering. I am sure that you see a parallel, here.
We hide out for the night and return in the morning, to find that most people are gone, and the army/police are rounding people upEstablishing new norms and boundaries as you go into a new phase of life. . There are no signs of aliens or any other aparitions. the dream always ends at that point.Yes, they end depicting symbolic growth, changes in norms and what you might soon identify as being new and acceptable behavior (where perhaps a more rowdy behavior might have been the norm (real life) while in college.


Some other dream related stuff that I should add:
I can recall thousands of dreams that i've had, since about the age of four. Is this normal?It is a gift actually, as it chronicles change within as you changed in life. You have paid attention, and this is good.

I have sleep paralysis quite regularly.Often but not always brought on by dreams that are somewhat startling and then again just as easily said...brought on by waking patterns while in a deep sleep...the circuitry of the brain is in the sleep mode while you get a shot of adrenal chemicals.... much like flooring an Indy car with your foot on the brake. you give it the juice to go ( parallel to a fight or flight reaction) within the body. You are startled and you get the chemicals that allow you super human strength only the circuit for motor sensory operation have not yet been switched on. The result is all that you can do is lay there until finally you start to panic even more (more chemicals are injected into the system and now panic easily sets in). This is a very trauma filled experience in itself.

I have lucid dreams quite often, and enjoy them on the whole...apart from one: my girlffriend died in a dream before it became lucid, and when it did become lucid I destroyed the world becasue i was so angry. I woke up and had an out of body experience upon waking up. is this weird? Out of body is a bit difficult to do, or so I understand. I have had many when was four years old that lasted for about a year (after a near death experience...electrocution).

I have died in dreams a few times. This doesn't happen often, but sticks out in my memory.Sometimes it is not the death that is the message but more in how you see peoples reaction (how they feel about you) . I am not saying this is what you experienced but it is highly common. It allows us a perspective of how we are perceived by others. This is an important step in "individuation" per Carl Jung (you may want to look this term up). Google individuation, Carl Jung...

Hopefully I havent waffled too much, and I look forward to reading any feedback, or from anyone who's had similar experience. Cheers.I look forward to being able to discuss upcoming dreams with you.
sailrmc

[Varzandeh]

Hi,
A plane is a business or a work group as big as the seats the plane had.If crashed on the ground means that business won't be successful. if crashed into a building the workgroup will meet another group.A lake means someone who has a limited science like a lawyer or a doctor,without water means his business doesn't work.

About the aliens I don't know But falling stars means a scientist or a commander or a soldier will miss.
Dreams Of immatured children is about their parents boys is about their father.
Good luck.

[Varzandeh]

Hi,
Again, If a plane was exploided and there was a big light means your woork group name will be in a local paper or in a list.
If you received heat from an exploision means you have had a fever at that time.


I want to tell you a reason to know that 5 senses can't understand anything except by the soul,
Have you dreamt you were eating and drinking and had pleasure of that. He said yes. I said: have you dreamt laughing and crying, and strolling in the cities that haven't seen yet but you know the specialties. He said: yes dreamt very much. I said: Have you ever dreamt about your dead brother or father and know them like they are alive.
He said: yes too many times. I said: tell me which sense has received such things to see the dead and talking to them or crying and laughing. He said: I can’t say which one. Because the body is slept like a dead. I said: tell me when you wake up don’t you remember and report to the friends exactly, He said; yes and sometimes I see that before night in real life. I said; which sense keeps it to remember the dream after waking. He said; there is no way for sense. I said then you should know because senses are vein here that is the soul that God has put wisdom in it and it is a reason. He said; what I dream is like mirage one thinks it is water but when arrive at there is nothing. I said; how do you say it is like mirage and you ate sweets and pickles and were happy and sad he said; because what I dream when I arrive at it is nothing. I said: have you ever had sex in the dream and your hearts beat, have you ever had wet dream about a woman or man. You know him or don’t know He said many times said had you orgasm and when you woke up you were wet then this is not mirage.
He said: dreaming orgasm is just like the real life .I said this is my reason that soul. Knows everything although senses are dead and can’t see or hear of course you shouldn’t deny that soul in addition of the senses knowledge recognition in the waking life and after vanishing the senses has sex with them then it recognizes the things after going senses and now you understand that the itself is guiding the senses and is their governor and none of the senses can’t do anything without soul; if the soul goes a head body wasn’t get back and if soul gets back the body won’t go ahead with the soul the happiness comes and with it the ache is received if a sense is damaged the soul is remained but if the soul is damaged senses can work properly.

[theprisoner1101]

I don't think your dream experiences are unusal, as I've had similar ones since I can remember; but I do think it makes us special (I'd never refer to myself as 'normal'). I do get the other replies to your dreams, but I'd like to offer a little simplicity. The first sounds like a feeling of being a passenger in your life - you are never the one flying the plane. This is your life and you are the only one responsibile for your choices. I think the fact that the plane always crahses represents how much you can get hurt on many levels by 'taking a back seat' in your life - sometimes you can actually feel the burning plane. Which might suggest that childhood circumstances dictated your choices for you. I think it's good that the dream has nearly stopped, like you are taking a more active roll in controlling your life.
The second dream, to me, sounds like you are running from something you don't think you can face. The fact that you, your wife and son (a possible representation of your inner child - a part of you that feels safe with your wife), are the only ones that "hide" seems to be the most significant part.
I suggest, when you go to bed, think about the dream. Begin with maybe just a still picture of the dream and try to work from there. I would try to watch the dream unfold from the outside, to get a different perspective. Since you are a lucid dreamer, it shouldn't take to much effort for you to revisit the actual dream. But before you try to manipulate the dream, I would suggest trying to find out why no one else believes it's an illusion.

[theprisoner1101]

I don't think your dream experiences are unusal, as I've had similar ones since I can remember; but I do think it makes us special (I'd never refer to myself as 'normal'). I do get the other replies to your dreams, but I'd like to offer a little simplicity. The first sounds like a feeling of being a passenger in your life - you are never the one flying the plane. This is your life and you are the only one responsibile for your choices. I think the fact that the plane always crashes represents how much you can get hurt on many levels by 'taking a back seat' in your life - sometimes you can actually feel the burning plane. Which might suggest that childhood circumstances dictated your choices for you. I think it's good that the dream has nearly stopped, like you are taking a more active roll in your life.
The second dream, to me, sounds like you are running from something you don't think you can face. The fact that you, your wife and son (a possible representation of your inner child - a part of you that feels safe with your wife), are the only ones that "hide" seems to be the most significant part.
I suggest, when you go to bed, think about the dream. Begin with maybe just a still picture of the dream and try to work from there. I would try to watch the dream unfold from the outside, to get a different perspective. Since you are a lucid dreamer, it shouldn't take to much effort for you to revisit the actual dream. But before you try to manipulate the dream, I would suggest trying to find out why no one else believes it's an illusion.

[Varzandeh]

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[Jennings]

I entirely agree with you 1979. If you remove the reference I made to your childhood background you might find that the description applies to your fear of institutional incompetence and abuse which could be seen as a form of violence. There are limitations to remotely interpreting dreams of which you will be aware. Protecting your family, especially a son, is open to wide interpretation that would be subject to your own circumstances say like protecting (or hiding) something personal like an invention, product, idea, almost anything but it will be related to your life and probably your occupation or professional indisposition.