The third night of Mr. Parchment.(My first reoccurring/Please help)

[MannyAnalogue]

For the past three nights, this character Mr. Parchment has come up. I haven't seen him and really I know very little about him. I have no idea what he could represent. I'm posting the third dream, the one I had last night, because it's the most detailed and the most confusing. There seems to be a lot here, but I still can't place it. If anyone can help me out with this it would be greatly appreciated.

05/06/08

Medical/Research Facility/ there against my will. Joe is there as well.
We're led down a long corridor through decontamination rooms/ many tests are taken, before they lead us to an outside area, still enclosed within the facility grounds. We're dressed in white t-shirts and pants, no shoes, white med bracelets.
Through the corridor no employees are with us, but all on the other side of a large thick glass window in hasmat suits operating the machinery and running the tests in a safer place, they speak to us through a loudspeaker. Everything is white.
The outside area, there's green grass, a few medium height trees and some very old playground equipment. The wall keeping us in is brick, very high. Crude children's drawing cover everything that could be written on, bright colors like chalk but permanent. I hear birds but see nothing. I see the speakers in the ceiling so high above us.
I'm not so thrilled about being here with Joe, even though we're in the same position, he's still smug and being a smarta--. I avoid him mostly.
I'm called over the loudspeaker. Going back inside, one the the men behind the glass wall tells me that I now owe 76k to the facility, I'm furious. "Why the hell should I owe you anything? I'm being held here against my will."
Back "outside" A pitcher of purple kool-aid and two white glasses rise up from a hollow tree stump and a bell noise it heard. Joe pours two glasses, I drink half and throw the glass back at the window.
Walking over to the gate keeping us inside and the out outside, I'm still angry, I feel my blood boiling. I swing an open hand at the thick metal door and just before it hits the surface, the door blows off, after a fraction of a seconds pause.
Stepping down, I see the the facility is elevated by at least three feet. Joe follows, and we start to wander the town. It looks like a piece of the past, maybe a historical district, the architecture is all very old and everything is a little run down. Looking over my shoulder I notice the street sign, Parchment St..
Still no people, the day is overcast, it seems to of just rained. Around the corner, two guys on bikes swerve past, almost hitting us. One of them is someone from my past. He double takes and says my name. He grins in a snobby way, raising his eyebrows. This drives me mad, "Get the F out of here"
He refuses, still grinning, he's really getting under my skin. He's talking more and more, always grinning always stuck up. I put my right hand to my eyes, to ease my head then swung a backhand toward the two. It didn't touch them but the force threw them and their bikes to the ground a few feet away. "Get the f outta here . . . now." They got up and scurried away trembling. Joe laughed, "Dude, what the hell's the matter with you? No wonder they're keeping you at the facility. I'm nothing like you." "You're right," I said "And I'm nothing like you.". End.

[alyssian]

I am intrigued by the vivid recollection of so many symbols in this particular dream. I offer insight taken from a dream encyclopedia of sorts entitled 20,000 Dreams by Mary Summer Rain. Parenthesis are mine.
Medical Facility-emphasizes a need for some type of personal care or healing.
Corridor-indicates a passageway; the way between stages of life; connecting aspects
(There are a few specific medical tests listed, but no reference to a battery of tests as described here.)
White-applies to purity and goodness, the positive aspects in life. (From the information here, I assume your shirt and pants where both white. The fact that you are clothed in all white could denote a certain attitude about yourself; this may be a visual representation of your incredulity at being there based on your belief that you “should not be here”.)
Barefoot-characterizes an individual who walks a path with full knowledge of what each step means.
Window-shows the quality and quantity of perception
picture window-represents a wider view. This symbol advises the dreamer to look at something with a wider perspective, less conservatively
windowpane-reveals the accuracy of one’s perception. Recall the condition, color, and glass type of the dream windowpane. Was it dirty? Cracked? Shattered? Tinted or rippled? (Just thought I would ad these last two for possible clarification; May or may not apply.)
Hazardous materials-warns of harmful aspects surrounding the dreamer. This will be different for everyone.
scientist-sets up obstacles against learning despite an eagerness to study (If it is true that everyone in our dreams is a representation of some aspect of our own personality; could this whole dream be indicative of some internal conflict you are experiencing? Are you looking for answers in some area, but coming up against the necessity to allow new ideas or concepts that are troubling b/c of established thought patterns or ingrained set beliefs? Just a possibility to explore.)
Machinery-refers to personally devised instrumentations that one uses to hasten or ease a path advancement.
Loudspeaker-emphasizes a message unique to each dreamer. What words came over the loudspeaker?
Green-represents health and growth
Grass-corresponds to spiritual foundations.
(Trees-natural abilities)
Playground-suggests childlike traits or attitudes. (considering the condition of the equipment; what does this say about your childlike traits? Are you too serious, viewing silliness and curiosity as distasteful qualities in an adult? Do you hear yourself telling others, or even yourself to “grow up”?)
Wall-may signify various connotations, depending on where the wall was and the surrounding details. In most cases a plain wall symbolizes a type of barrio that needs to be dealt with.
Brick-signifies life’s building blocks; one’s personal foundational aspects that should be solid and strong.
Drawing-connotes creative expression of inner aspects. (in this instance, it seems to be related to the creative expression of the inner childlike qualities that have been neglected, appearing as old playground equipment.)
Birdsong-is usually associated with a light heart; inner joy and acceptance.
Speakers-indicates a need to hear more clearly; a state of inattention, possibly self-generated.
Ceiling high-signifies an analytical thought process
Pitcher-illustrates what one views as a source to quench thirst or desire. The key is to recall what the pitcher held. Was it full or empty? Was someone holding it or pouring? What flowed from it? Color? (fortunately, you have this specific information.)
Purple-constitutes attained spiritual wisdom and enlightenment.
(Kool-aid; come on how many references to childlike qualities do you need in one dream?)
Bell-is a call for increased awareness. May indicate a call to duty or responsibility.
Gate-pertains to that which must be passed through (or rather experienced) for one to advance along one’s path.
Door-indicates a life factor that one must experience or pass through to achieve advancement or progression along one’s path.
Metal-See specific type
Steel-relates to strength
?Stairs-pertain to one’s ascent or descent in relation to one’s life progression or advancement. Recall the type of stairs and the condition of them. Were they a specific color? Lit or darkened? Were there missing steps?
Descending/ Down
To dream that you are moving down, suggests that you have made a wrong decision or headed toward the wrong direction in life.(this excerpt taken from dreammoods.com)
(Architecture-meaning based on specific features rather than a general type. Might consider the possibility that somewhere in your historic past, you did in fact make a wrong decision that is asking to be reconsidered, esp with all the references to childhood.)
overcast-suggests mental or emotional cloudiness; lack of perceptual clarity.
bicycle-depicts mental, physical, or spiritual balance.
[The last part of your dream shows a particularly raw internal conflict in my opinion. Again, if we go on the basis that each person in any given dream is a representation of some part of our own personality, it would seem that there is a part of yourself that you are adamant about denying. If you are interested, if any of the content here rings true for you; I would like to share some more insight with you about a course of growth that may be of use to you. There are some tools I have utilized myself during a process that I call personality integration that have brought healing to me personally. I would be happy to share more as I find the possible interpretation of this dream to be a very interesting request from your subconscious to look deeply into some thought patterns that are in definite need of exploration/investigation.
As for the name of this elusive man you seem to be tracking, I find the meaning of the word and the history behind it fascinating. I would definitely like to ask a few key questions about your beliefs before I would offer my opinion on this pertinent piece of information. I would not want to assume that you are aware of certain theories that may be coming to light here, b/c if not, I doubt your subconscious would use this as a symbol if it carries no meaning for you.]
Parchment is a thin material made from calfskin, sheepskin or goatskin. Its most common use is as the pages of a book, codex or manuscript. There was a short period during the introduction of printing where parchment and paper were used interchangeably: although most copies of the Gutenberg Bible are on paper, some were printed on parchment. In 1490, Johannes Trithemius preferred the older methods, because "handwriting placed on parchment will be able to endure a thousand years. But how long will printing last, which is dependent on paper? For if ...it lasts for two hundred years that is a long time." (Excerpt taken from wikepedia)

Blessings-alyssian

[MannyAnalogue]

Alyssian

First I want to thank you for taking the time and trouble to write out and look up all the things you did. I appreciate it

As for my beliefs? I believe strongly in God, but don't follow any specific religion. I don't believe that only one faith can be right. I grew up in a family that was first Catholic, then on my grandmother's dying wish Protestant for a while. Later I looked into eastern religions and philosophy and Islam a bit. I have a pretty open view on things like this, and it's possible that a lot of symbols could have shown up that I didn't realize.

Feel free to ask any more questions.

I look forward to hearing from you again.

- Manny

[sailrmc]

Dreams often incorporate a good amount of metaphor, innuendo and wordplay. Mr; Parchment could very well indicate the never ending recording process' of the mind. Quite simply, the subconscious might have made 'this" character a standard in your dreams depicting the minds never ending process of recording any and all information that one encounters in waking life. This is done for several reasons ranging from learning to recall for dream purposes (subconscious comment via dreams). Since it has recurred the mind is calling your attention to the natural process as to, how the mind works. The acknowledgment of the way that the mind functions, contributes to self understanding when it comes to dreaming, due to the fact that, when we understand, where the information comes from (it's legitimacy), that we are more apt to give the information proper weight of consideration. We gain a better understanding of the mirroring and comment process of the mind.

Just as shown in your dream, a sterile white environment often indicates that the dreamer has health or illness issues. As well it may be showing that you are intolerant or indignant about such an occurrence happening to you!

Because there is little to no background given one can only speculate...keeping in mind that illness may not mean something that is apparent at this time, or even at it's full potential. It may be reflecting a state of mind that you are trying to partition from the awareness of those around you... There does seem to be an attempt on your part to evaluate a situation that is affecting you (sometimes also shown as "illness" symbolism).
The mind does not have to fully explain things that are happening as it knows that you already know everything that ispresently going on in your life as well as that which has already taken place.

Your dream is presented, much the way that a writer would paint the details of a piece that is under construction. This is an unusual "genre" of dream composition. Perhaps you are a writer.

Keep in mind that the presence of white (in the context that you have given) is always a significant indicator...when negative it is as I have already suggested, however when it is positive, spiritual aspects are often apparent.
Your dream has a negative tendency and although white is not presented quite "as threatening" as is commonly seen in patients who are gravely ill, it is definitely a factor.

Your thought?
sailrmc

[MannyAnalogue]

Sailrmc

Thanks for your response. Your ideas on Mr. Parchment being a representation of the mind's recording process, are really interesting. Still, it is a strange way to represent the character.

Sterile white showing illness: This theme has come up in dreams every so often, ever since I can remember, but I've never had any serious illness. It usually goes with the general feeling and atmosphere of hospitals: quiet dry sterile drab colors. Hospitals usually leave me more inside my own head than most places, and in dreams it seems to be the same. Lots of people are around, things are obviously happening, but it might as well be happening in another world.

I want to thank you once again for your input though mano. By the way, I'd like to be a writer, so I'll take that as a compliment.

- Manny

[sailrmc]

Thank you for your feedback.
I would like to add, that the thought (as expressed in your response) is recurrent, as the history goes on this type of dream. What I mean to say is... most of the time when I suggest that the dream seems to be presented to help the dreamer understand the minds processes, so as to validate future subconscious suggestions, I get similar responses to yours. The first time I encountered this type of dream that I feel you are experiencing, was through my personal dreams. Even though I seemed to pretty competent at dream analysis or others, finding meaning in my own dreams was the most difficult. This is about the time I once again started to discount the validity of my own dreams. That is when, the dreams, explaining the process' of the mind, started. I logged them in my journal and became even more perplexed until I performed an exercise that a psychology prof (who also was also a practicing psychiatrist) suggested. By that time I had lots of dreams having to do with matricies, vectors, and machinery in general. I knew that the dreams had explained processes of gathering, manufacturing, and storage etc. but that was all I could derive from them. I was a student, and I had absolutely no background in manufacturing or business. I questioned where they could have possibly come from and what value they had? After doing the exercises as suggested by my prof, the blatant statement was told to me in a dream "look, I see that you just don't get it, so I will just tell you"..."this is how I make them", "these are the steps I take". In that dream I happened to be interviewing a man who was sitting on a movie set, with pen and paper in hand...as he sat in the directors (folding canvass chair) he made those statements. AND, what an attitude he had!! So classic was this role player... ultra light skin, Elvis black hair, white T shirt with "director" written across the back. Complete with jet black pants and a megaphone in his hand (that helped him emphasize every world he loudly told me)... I got the message.
Since then, I have seen many, dreams, of others who are very interested in finding meaning in dreams, as well as an almost equal amount of blatant attempts of the subconscious mind to unveil it's processes. As I have said, their responses are similar to yours, initially, but the longer they remain interested the more convinced they become. At some point most people who are seeking to find genuine significant meaning in their dreams, wonder where they come from, how the are made? The mind attempts to spell out it's processes in classic symbolic format. There is much written about this as well, but I can not remember the many books that I have seen it in.

Keep it in the back of your mind, just because.... and know that your dreams are valid and meaningful.

At the risk of making this about me (which is not my intent at all) I will recall a similar dream that I had.

I recently had a night of 149 dreams...as they developed and showed the processes of gathering, storage and retrieval they became faster and faster until I could no longer keep up with their feverish pace, other than to count the number of dream I was witnessing. I was trying to pay close attention to each and every detail as I usually do in journaling my dreams. The dream would start over replaying that which had already been revealed and adding more each time. It was progressing at a faster and faster rate until I could no longer keep up. Finally I just gave up and began to relax. As the minds process' were revealed in the dream and it progressed faster and faster, it required less effort to see the dream unfold and to derive simultaneous meaning until it was effortless... like watching a movie.
You may have seen documentary on how cartoons were once made...a frame at a time until a few were done and the animator could flip through the frames and action would appear? My dream was similar but with exponentially more information...and starting at a much slower pace (even though the decision making of what would be featured subject and the matrix of the storage technique within the mind etc. These dreams would take pages and pages to write out but you get the point.
I am sorry to have lingered on this subject but your dream is typical of this variety of dream...of understanding. They are often a precursor to what I call
progressive or advanced dreaming (just my own jargon).

Thanks for reading, and remember to stay interested in your dreams. This type of dream does not typically present itself unless a solid basis of understanding is needed. Soon I feel that you will start to receive some very important dreams.
All of the best to you, and I will be able to address any and all questions (should you have any).
sailrmc

[MannyAnalogue]

Sailrmc

I feel like I'm following you, up to a point, but why would the mind try to help us understand the way it works? I'm not sure if I missed something along the way. Did you say it would do this to help us gain more information and insight from dreaming?

You said:"This type of dream does not typically present itself unless a solid basis of understanding is needed."

Do you mean that my mind is trying to broaden my insight, to prepare me for important information that needs to get to me, through future dreams?

Also, I don't know what you mean by advanced dreaming. Something like dreams going a little deeper into the subconscious? Or dreams dealing with heavier subject matter?

Thanks

-Manny

[sailrmc]

I feel like I'm following you, up to a point, but why would the mind try to help us understand the way it works? I'm not sure if I missed something along the way. Did you say it would do this to help us gain more information and insight from dreaming?Yes, when there is doubt as to weather dreams are meaningful as opposed to being a whim of the mind that perhaps is purely for entertainment etc. The mind often shows from where dreams come...and this is in typical form or symbolism...example one dreamer asked me why she always has recurring dreams of people collecting information and dropping it off at an office and repeating the procedure incessantly. After some amplification techniques I learned that this dream started after she told a friend that she had always watched her dreams and thought that they were baseless bits of entertainment. The collection and deposit dream is but one typical dream that often gets more specific as it recurs, showing the minds processes and how the subconscious mind came to make the dream. Very interesting to me and to the lady who wondered what was up.

You said:"This type of dream does not typically present itself unless a solid basis of understanding is needed." As depicted in the example I just gave, the dreamer did not believe, yet she was interested enought to pay attention. In this case I often see a strategy of the subconscious mind, to gain credibility and understanding in the eyes of the dreamer, (who it desperately wants to convey meaning to) by first showing the processes and then progressing to simple meaningful dreams that clearly point out the meaning or message.

Do you mean that my mind is trying to broaden my insight, to prepare me for important information that needs to get to me, through future dreams?Yes, the subconscious mind is our mentor,friend, confidant, etc...and through careful strategy of gaining acceptance of the dreamer, it is able to bring important meaning and unconscious messages to consciousness (messages that the conscious mind is often unaware of).

Also, I don't know what you mean by advanced dreaming. Something like dreams going a little deeper into the subconscious? Or dreams dealing with heavier subject matter? There are many advantages to paying attention to dreams, and many ways the mind can convey these messages. The power of the unconscious mind is just now being discovered and we still have not scratched the surface. There is so much that can be gained and from so many different types of information that the unconscious mind can provide. I have seen some very incredible and important dreams (often life changing), everything from health related (learning about cancerous tumors and their locations before the dreamer ever knew that she had them), incredible dreams that emotionally heal horrendous baggage carried for years as a result of abuse etc.
I do not know if something special is in store for you but many very important dreams start with overwhelming recurrences of white. This is what has gotten my attention in your dream. I think that there will be more dreams with this feature and this is why I feel that the mind might be in the process of establishing credibility with you (making you aware of the real information that can be conveyed). Possibly there is something important on the way and perhaps the subconscious mind is saying let me lay the foundation so that she will pay attention when there is something that is of great importance.

Still your dreams are yours and you will have the best idea of their meaning as they are proposed to you.
I wish you the best!

Thanks,
sailrmc

[MannyAnalogue]

Sailrmc

Thank you again for your help and responses.

- Manny

[lw35]

I came upon this while doing a search for the history of the Parchment name; Interesting dreams . Here in Jamaica there is an area where lots of Parchment lives, I'm not sure, but there may even be a Parchment st. or lane. Maybe you should visit, you will find many mr.Parchment, some as you described and some nice ones. If you don't you may find a Mr. Wright.

Originally Posted by MannyAnalogue

For the past three nights, this character Mr. Parchment has come up. I haven't seen him and really I know very little about him. I have no idea what he could represent. I'm posting the third dream, the one I had last night, because it's the most detailed and the most confusing. There seems to be a lot here, but I still can't place it. If anyone can help me out with this it would be greatly appreciated.

05/06/08

Medical/Research Facility/ there against my will. Joe is there as well.
We're led down a long corridor through decontamination rooms/ many tests are taken, before they lead us to an outside area, still enclosed within the facility grounds. We're dressed in white t-shirts and pants, no shoes, white med bracelets.
Through the corridor no employees are with us, but all on the other side of a large thick glass window in hasmat suits operating the machinery and running the tests in a safer place, they speak to us through a loudspeaker. Everything is white.
The outside area, there's green grass, a few medium height trees and some very old playground equipment. The wall keeping us in is brick, very high. Crude children's drawing cover everything that could be written on, bright colors like chalk but permanent. I hear birds but see nothing. I see the speakers in the ceiling so high above us.
I'm not so thrilled about being here with Joe, even though we're in the same position, he's still smug and being a smarta--. I avoid him mostly.
I'm called over the loudspeaker. Going back inside, one the the men behind the glass wall tells me that I now owe 76k to the facility, I'm furious. "Why the hell should I owe you anything? I'm being held here against my will."
Back "outside" A pitcher of purple kool-aid and two white glasses rise up from a hollow tree stump and a bell noise it heard. Joe pours two glasses, I drink half and throw the glass back at the window.
Walking over to the gate keeping us inside and the out outside, I'm still angry, I feel my blood boiling. I swing an open hand at the thick metal door and just before it hits the surface, the door blows off, after a fraction of a seconds pause.
Stepping down, I see the the facility is elevated by at least three feet. Joe follows, and we start to wander the town. It looks like a piece of the past, maybe a historical district, the architecture is all very old and everything is a little run down. Looking over my shoulder I notice the street sign, Parchment St..
Still no people, the day is overcast, it seems to of just rained. Around the corner, two guys on bikes swerve past, almost hitting us. One of them is someone from my past. He double takes and says my name. He grins in a snobby way, raising his eyebrows. This drives me mad, "Get the F out of here"
He refuses, still grinning, he's really getting under my skin. He's talking more and more, always grinning always stuck up. I put my right hand to my eyes, to ease my head then swung a backhand toward the two. It didn't touch them but the force threw them and their bikes to the ground a few feet away. "Get the f outta here . . . now." They got up and scurried away trembling. Joe laughed, "Dude, what the hell's the matter with you? No wonder they're keeping you at the facility. I'm nothing like you." "You're right," I said "And I'm nothing like you.". End.