Any thoughts what this long confusing dream could mean?

[ron39]

I wish that I could remember this whole dream (or dreams maybe) more clearly but really I can only remember little bits and pieces.

There was some kind of confusion about a girl I was dating (in the dream i don't recognize her to be anyone real). She was young and very attractive but acting strange. I just can't pull all the details together - my memory is too hazy. There was something about miscommunication for sure and maybe me forgetting to call her or meet her when I should. I want to say that perhaps we worked together (in the dream).

I remember something about my mother, she was there and we were in a house and we were discussing the cost of some kind of vacation. I remember at first her saying the numbers i was quoting were expensive but I think I was saying that two of us were going (the aforementioned girl) and it was $2000 for 5 days or a week. Also that one of us would be paid by my dad (that part comes up later or maybe i have the sequencing wrong). I remember walking alone outside and seeing strange things in up in the air - not terrible high but maybe 50 - 100 feet. They were like decorative lights or globes or something. Just sort of hovering up there not clearly attached to anything.

I remember being involved in some kind of legal matter / business problem with my dad about a boat - like a medium sized yacht. Something happened to the boat I don't know exactly what. It sunk or was otherwise somehow destroyed. I just seem to remember that the boat would have been in many tiny pieces from whatever happened. I was helping him to analyze this situation somehow but how exactly I don't remember. I was trying to help him win the lawsuit I guess. He told me I would get the aforementioned trip (i guess he would come also) if the law suit turned out in our favor.

I remember then watching what seemed like a commercial or TV show comparing two boats. They were medium sized boats, I think not as big as the one that was destroyed but I don't remember ever seeing the destroyed boat. The narrator was making the boats sound very new and high tech mentioning something like water jets or jet turbines (i can't remember exactly, jet something) but the boats looked like rather antiquated designs to me. They were quite fast especially one which actually had a paddel wheel at the back. The engines sounded like cigarette boats or race cars. On closer inspection the smaller and slower of the two boats seemed to change into somethign completely different. It was boat but it looked more like a classic car that was turned into a boat. Like a car from the late 40's or early 50's.

At some other point as I was dreaming I was sitting wachting TV in a house (didn't recognize the house) and I saw a TV commercial for a movie and they were going through what actors were in it, etc. They named three people and that last person shown and named was my brother! And the guy narrating the commercial repeated his last name several times when he said it (no idea why). My brother was just shown sitting in a chair making goofy faces. I remember getting incredibly pissed off / jealous and yelling and complaining to my friend who was with me. How could he get this job, he doesn't know how to act etc. etc. I had the feeling in the dream that he had had very small parts before but this was major like a main part because they were naming him. In real life my brother has nothing to do with acting.

Somewhere after all of this I remember thinking how strange my dreams were adn that I should write it down and get some outside opinions on what it all means. Note I'm still dreaming but I'm thinking this and starting to write it on a piece of paper. Then I decide better to just type it directly into my laptop.

I think that perhaps there are some pieces missing in my memory but the next thing I remember is a guy from my real life shows up. In real life he is someone that I really don't like at all but have very little to do with him at work and hardly talk to him. In the dream we are fighting very violently. I am constantly getting the upper hand but then I am afraid to hit him too hard to really disable him. I can't explain why it's like I'm almost getting to the point of winning the fight but then I just don't use enough force to do what needs to be done. At one point I had the opportunity to smash his head on a wall and really put him down and out but instead I do it very softly. I seem to think this went on for a bit or that there were breaks and then fighting again. I think at one point we were inside a walk-in closet fighting.

This is all I really remember but I think there was a lot more. Any ideas?

[sailrmc]

I find this dream to be interesting for several different reasons. Any person who has read my previous interpretations knows that I am really a fanatic about the architecture of dreams (those aspects of dreams that set the stage, the mood, and give all of the clues to, where the subconscious mind is coming from, (it's perspective). This dream is very interesting because the architecture goes through several transitions before it ever gets to the main meaning. I will not bore you with all of the architecture because it would be time consuming and many of you may not be interested in such things...but I will say that architecture in dreams is something that is highly informative as it gives life and real emotions to the dream that the dreamer can relate to.
As for this dream's meaning. I see an effort by the dreaming mind to point out feelings and emotions that need resolution. They are presented in a parallel story line, type strategy, to relate that, which I will propose as a meaning.

The boat being in pieces relates to a person. It could be the dreamer or someone who he knows very well, and the mind is using a reward strategy to keep the dreamer involved in the dream (architecture). The subconscious mind basically is saying (in a figurative way),"If you hang in there with me as I review this subject in your dreams there will be pain, but there will be a reward (an emotional reward)."

Now the dream. This dream is a chronicle (if you will). It comments on your lifelong relationship with a sibling and the associated feelings and emotions that you endure through time.
In some way, someone was destroyed (emotionally hurt), and this dream is about this situation. It kind of keeps score through the years. Keep in mind that the subconscious mind sometimes tends to overstate things a bit but the general mood or tone cannot be discounted...this dream chronicles emotional pain, between two brothers, that been present for much of their lives.

Keep in mind that a lawsuit (if it is not something that the dreamer is involved in real life, relating to his brother) translates, in this context, to be the mind formulating a decision after reviewing some details that it is evaluating. The dream is doing just that!
Skipping some architecture... the boat turns into a car (symbolic for the dreamer and how he sees himself)...a classic? Older but in good shape, well maintained. One thing is for sure. One of you is different in some way from the other. One is slower, older fashioned, or perhaps just older in age?

Without knowing for certain, I will be so bold as to say that your subconscious mind is acknowledging, just how you feel about your brother. In this case you feel that your brother has been given attention and has gained notoriety and credit, for some quality or qualities, that he in fact did not really have. You feel that he is getting and has gotten recognition for things that he should not be getting recognition for, and you are quite visibly shaken as a result. Being more specific, you feel that your brother has, for quite some time, taken the spotlight from you. This describes a long term case of sibling rivalry and you feel that you have gotten burned as as result. Perhaps (and the details are not clear enough for me to be positive about), but there is innuendo suggests that your credibility has been sabotaged by him OR either you have sabotaged his credibility. It could be either or both... It does appear that as time passed both of you were more equally matched in capabilities so the dream talks about that time in life where (the smallest one, either in age or physical appearance), is able to give the other a run for the money (so to speak).
Quiet simply, you feel as if your brother was overrated and that really made you angry.

I want to preface the following with the statement that, in no way do I feel it applies to you at all...

As a member of a college psychology class, I remember doing a dream analysis of a hospitalized patient who had been diagnosed with a psychosis. The symbolism that appeared in dream of the patient being studied was remotely similar to your dream but the perspective was analyzed from a different plane. My point being, that one dream can be evaluated in different ways... the hint as to which way to approach the interpretation would come as a result of knowing the psychological health of the dreamer.

With this in mind, a second alternative could be, to view the dream in the following way... A dream in which all the relatives (as role players) actually represent aspects of "self" rather than a relationship with a real to life sibling. The father would represent the parental or controlling aspect of the dreamers internal persona... who hopes to reward the dreamer, if he can manage to resolve bad feelings and emotions that have surfaced and exist between two aspects of the dreamer. (Let me explain a bit); If you think of a human psyche as an intricate combination of various personalities that make up one persona, or self, I would be talking about two aspects of self that are at war (so to speak) with each other. In such a case a similar dream to the one being discussed would be scripted by the subconscious mind as way of bringing to consciousness, the fact that there is a problem. This problem could range from being as simple as a manifestation of "inner conflict", or at the other end of the spectrum, as complex as a manifestation of various types of psychoses. The intent of the dreaming mind (same as subconscious mind) would be the hope that awareness would come to consciousness mind clearly pointing out the inner conflict that exist. It would be an genuine effort to resolve inner conflict thus creating peace, and harmony within. Again, I am in no way suggesting that you are in a bad psychological way (psychologically impaired). Like the first analysis, it would address a life long struggle, but as I said before the struggle would be internal rather than a real life case of sibling rivalry.

In reality both the internal struggle and the real life struggle would apply to some degree, making this dream multi plane.... (If I am on track here). The mind is so incredible!!
sailrmc
Your thoughts??

[ron39]

Hi Sailrmc,

Yes a lot of what you said is accurate about the relationship with my brother - it hasn't been all that good or very close and when were kids we used to fight alot. At times I thought he was being favored but this goes back to the age of 10 or so. I'm 27 now, I am the older one and we don't have a lot of contact as we live in different countries. But this is all very old stuff, I can't see what would bring this up in my mind now. As I said though your interpretations seem pretty accurate but I just can't tie together why this is coming out now - it's such "old news."

I don't see that you mentioned anything about fighting with the guy from work - do you have any thoughts on that?

THanks!

[sailrmc]

Ron,
Let me explain, there is a reason that your mind has brought up these old feelings relating to your, brother regarding the old baggage of sibling rivalry.
While reading below, keep in mind that the subconscious mind always tries to tie in feelings and emotions from our past with what is going on in our life now.

This is the base line strategy or approach that the subconscious mind is
using so ingeniously, to help you deal with issues in life...
- The subconscious mind sees that Ron has a waking life dilemma and it
searches lessons learned from the past to draw upon.
- It determines that Ron has gone through a similar situation in his life. He
has dealt with it and has since progressed with his life in a positive way.
- So it brings this to mind, so that you may acknowledge the importance of
lessons learned, and relate to what you have learned from dealing with
such as situation.
- It determines that since you have successfully dealt with a similar
situation it will bring to consciousness, the lesson you have learned (from
your past) in hopes that you will use what you have learned to overcome
that which affects you now.
This is all but saying, Hey Ron...You have been in this ugly scene before and you have prevailed. You can do this! Hang in there...and it conjures the associated feelings and emotions so that you will make the connection.

Are you with me?
sailrmc

[ron39]

Sailrmc,

Yes I see what you're saying but I am having difficulty figuring out what in my life now relates to that situation. Also I'm wondering what the fighting with the guy at work was all about. Thanks.

[sailrmc]

Ron,
It is always said that when we are too close to the subject at hand there is a good chance that objectivity will be lost is greater.

I think that you will see the similarities or association between the two if you step back, take your time and think about them. Your subconscious mind has it pegged already.
sailrmc